SurelySerious Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 I'm reading a book that I think details some of what is missing in the Air Force. It doesn't really fit in the "military books" thread, so I'll throw it down here. Invisibles: The Power of Anonymous Work in an Age of Relentless Self-Promotion By David Zweig He profiles people in various skilled career fields whose craft goes largely unnoticed (and who are intrinsically motivated), but the success of their effort is inherent to the success of the organization. His three identified traits are : 1) Ambivalence toward recognition, 2) Meticulousness, and 3) Savoring of responsibility. It's an attitude and approach you still see in maintenance crews, comm guys, and aircrew, just one you wish you saw more of. I think it's worth the read.
MD Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Who shit the bed? 161st or 162nd? Probably the the 214th...
Champ Kind Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) JQP posted a copy of the referral OPR and the rebuttal/supporting documents on his FB page. Looks like he's trying to put in some real effort to help. Edited July 28, 2014 by Champ Kind
SurelySerious Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 JQP posted a copy of the referral OPR and the rebuttal/supporting documents on his FB page. WTF 1
Kaman Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Disproportionate number of personnel not engaged or trained as war-fighters.
Slow-Smooth-Fast Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Reading the comments, it sounds like he got Feminazied. wut
Azimuth Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Why is the Senior Rater on his OPR the WYANG Wing King, and not Rhatigan? Yet Rhatigan ordered his removal. This isn't how every other TFI in the MAF rates. This is very shady. Good on him keeping all of his support documentation. Edited July 29, 2014 by Azimuth
Fifty-six & Two Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Why is the Senior Rater on his OPR the WYANG Wing King, and not Rhatigan? Yet Rhatigan ordered his removal. This isn't how every other TFI in the MAF rates. This is very shady. Good on him keeping all of his support documentation. I believe it was changed a year or two ago that their performance reports would routed through the WYANG. Their PRFs still go through the 19th though. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Majestik Møøse Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Oh my, they changed his push line to MAJCOM staff, the horror. We are seriously retarded when we are still inserting secret push line code words into a referral OPR.
SurelySerious Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 WTF that he posted it, or WTF? At the situation.
17D_guy Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Between the two firings, that are now extremely public, how is the CSAF going to have the audacity to say there's no ethical problem within the ranks? These are being discussed in my own little part of the Comm world. This is a real discussion point for use lowly CGOs. Chist.. now I have to document, document, document when I want to fire someone. And do it when I'm a CC just to make sure if I'm relieved of command for no reason I can start a Congressional that'll go nowhere. At least the Maj who created a toxic environment this dude got blamed with will be handled appropriately. 1
Fuzz Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Between the two firings, that are now extremely public, how is the CSAF going to have the audacity to say there's no ethical problem within the ranks? At least the Maj who created a toxic environment this dude got blamed with will be handled appropriately. Agreed on the first point. On the second, I'm hoping that's sarcasm, considering this person apparently showboats about the then 18th AF/CC now AMC/CC being his personal mentor.
Bender Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 These are being discussed in my own little part of the...world. Dear lord...good. The people working out here appreciate it when critical thought gets applied. Just be careful, we don't always know the whole story, so discuss at will...accuse carefully. Chist.. now I have to document, document, document when I want to fire someone. You were, and still are, supposed to do that. Just because he crashes his Porsche... Bendy
pawnman Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Oh my, they changed his push line to MAJCOM staff, the horror. We are seriously retarded when we are still inserting secret push line code words into a referral OPR. Interesting that it says he failed to create a good climate...yet he's still #2/9 SQ/CCs. WTF are numbers 3-9 doing?
BitteEinBit Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 From what I gather, it seems he was given a performance review with the below Draft OPR, then blindsided with the Referral OPR. #1 of 20 SQ/CCs The "People skills unrivaled" is what killed him there. Everyone knows you have to be socially awkward to be a great commander these days. Why in the world would we want commanders with a personality?!? 2
zach braff Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 The comment thread on JQP's blog article about the firing is mind-blowingly amazing - and still going. Highly recommend cooking up some jalapeno popcorn and sitting down for a read.... zb 1
Guest nsplayr Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 The comment thread on JQP's blog article about the firing is mind-blowingly amazing - and still going. Highly recommend cooking up some jalapeno popcorn and sitting down for a read.... zb Damn...crazy stuff on those comment threads. You could pitch that sh*t as a reality show.
BitteEinBit Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 People are getting called out by name. Crazy. What is amazing is that some of those names I haven't seen in a while, but they were trouble makers back when I knew them 5 years ago. The whole thing comes full circle. The AF had probably better fix the perception out there because this will likely make the AF Enquirer since news has been slow lately. I do find it funny about the character assassination attempt by "someone" talking about how the "commander would drink beers and have fun...I didn't realize commanders couldn't drink and have fun anymore (not that you have to drink to have fun). Times have changed...and that is why clubs are failing...but I digress
hispeed7721 Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 I didn't realize commanders couldn't drink and have fun anymore (not that you have to drink to have fun). Times have changed...and that is why the Air Force is failing...but I digress FIFY 1
MSCguy Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 The TFSC gave me a number to some office that was supposedly somewhere in AFMC A1. The number had a DSN prefix that belonged to Scott. I then emailed them back and explained that they sent me to the right office but in the wrong MAJCOM. TFSC rep didn't know that AFMC and AMC were not the same thing. I'm sure glad our AFPC dudes are knowledgable about such things.
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