Pooter Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 4 hours ago, wampum66 said: Well considering the fact that you can't just say "I identify as female" and play in NCAA female events, good luck with that. NCAA requires at least 1 year of documented testoterone suppression treatment as well as proof they are below the required level for female events. I think you'll be hard pressed to find people to do that just for a "gotcha". Probably because most people don't give a shit about how other people want to live their lives. But go ahead and keep on pretending like you care about women's sports 👌 Yeah you can do what you want until it starts to negatively impact others. That's where my libertarian limit ends. People want their daughters to get a fair shake in sports not dominated by records set by biological dudes. It's pretty telling when a male swimmer barely in the top 1,000 "transitions" and becomes a record setting destroyer of worlds, obliterating the competition by entire pool lengths and immediately claiming national titles. Ffs democrats created title IX to carve out an equal space for girls sports in the first place. 4 1
Biff_T Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) I really hoped this woke thing was a social experiment. Where do we draw the line between sanity and lunacy? I idenify as a tasty sausage egg McGridle. Please eat me. Edited May 12, 2023 by Biff_T
charlie141 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Well considering the fact that you can't just say "I identify as female" and play in NCAA female events, good luck with that. NCAA requires at least 1 year of documented testoterone suppression treatment as well as proof they are below the required level for female events. I think you'll be hard pressed to find people to do that just for a "gotcha". Probably because most people don't give a shit about how other people want to live their lives. But go ahead and keep on pretending like you care about women's sports I mostly lurk on here but feel compelled to comment on this foolish post.You don’t have to “care about women’s sports” to actually care about women in this country and to ensure they can work, play, shower, congregate without the presence of men’s genitals in their locker rooms. 5 years ago, I would have said of course we ALL want that for our sisters, girlfriends, wives, moms….how is it even possible that I can’t say that today? The let “…other people live their lives “ argument made above is utter nonsense.Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app 1 1 1
bfargin Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Let’s be honest here, bone smugglers, trannies, gender fluid, are all clowns in the same circus. We all knew where this was heading even if some people had their heads buried somewhere. This was the logical destination from the start with the entire alphabet crew and our “live and let live” attitude on throwing out community impacting norms. The research in anthropology, sociology, psychology, and medicine all show the negative impact to individuals, communities and societies when deviant lifestyles/actions are tolerated. And, we’re way past tolerance into full blown encouragement. Ygtbsm 1 1
bfargin Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Sadly the heroic marine is now being charged with second degree manslaughter for taking down the NYC subway criminal.
VMFA187 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 9 hours ago, wampum66 said: Well considering the fact that you can't just say "I identify as female" and play in NCAA female events, good luck with that. NCAA requires at least 1 year of documented testoterone suppression treatment as well as proof they are below the required level for female events. I think you'll be hard pressed to find people to do that just for a "gotcha". Probably because most people don't give a shit about how other people want to live their lives. But go ahead and keep on pretending like you care about women's sports 👌 They do when their actions affect others.
VMFA187 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, bfargin said: Sadly the heroic marine is now being charged with second degree manslaughter for taking down the NYC subway criminal. I'm not surprised, I hope that the jury is fair and finds him not guilty. 3
Jam Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 2 hours ago, bfargin said: Sadly the heroic marine is now being charged with second degree manslaughter for taking down the NYC subway criminal. Holy shit you can’t just choke someone out for 15 minutes just because they’re being loud and obnoxious. Dude is anything but a hero claiming self defense when multiple eyewitness say he was never hit
pawnman Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, VMFA187 said: They do when their actions affect others. Yep. You want to chop off your dick and claim you're a lady? Go for it, I won't stop you. You want to parade your dick around the women's locker room where my daughter is changing? GTFO. 1
HeloDude Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 2 hours ago, VMFA187 said: I'm not surprised, I hope that the jury is fair and finds him not guilty. Follow these simple steps: 1) Don’t go to NYC, if you do, don’t ride the subway 2) Keep to yourself…it’s not worth helping other random people against a criminal, especially if you’re in an area/state that values race above all else and also cares about criminals over others 3) If someone is attacking you, hopefully you’re not in a city/county/state (as mentioned in #2), but if you need defend yourself, make sure you’re verbally telling the criminal/people around you that you’re fearing for your life, etc before you take action if you can. Im definitely not an attorney, but this seems to make some sense these days.
nunya Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, HeloDude said: 2) Keep to yourself…it’s not worth helping other random people against a criminal I agree, but this makes me sad for the state of the nation. I've personally seen chivalry and defense of another go sideways several times (although not to this extent) and it's just not worth it.
lloyd christmas Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 4 hours ago, bfargin said: Let’s be honest here, bone smugglers, trannies, gender fluid, are all clowns in the same circus. We all knew where this was heading even if some people had their heads buried somewhere. This was the logical destination from the start with the entire alphabet crew and our “live and let live” attitude on throwing out community impacting norms. The research in anthropology, sociology, psychology, and medicine all show the negative impact to individuals, communities and societies when deviant lifestyles/actions are tolerated. And, we’re way past tolerance into full blown encouragement. Ygtbsm Been on BO.net for a long time. I got roasted here back in 2010-2011 for supporting the Defense of Marriage Act. My point was, the left was never looking to just allow gay couples who had been together forever the right to marry. They weren’t going to stop with just removing law that stated marriage was between one man and one woman. I saw this coming. Look where we are now after just a decade. You have to draw a line somewhere. One man and one woman made the most sense to me. Still does. 2 1 1
bfargin Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Jam said: Holy shit you can’t just choke someone out for 15 minutes just because they’re being loud and obnoxious. Dude is anything but a hero claiming self defense when multiple eyewitness say he was never hit I’ll engage assuming you’re not being a troll. So in order to defend yourself and others, you have to actually be struck? From what I’ve read from numerous sources, most agree that everyone around felt unsafe and that the criminal was acting unhinged and threateningly. it also appears from the videos I’ve seen is he was trying to control the criminal and not kill him. From what i have seen and read, the most you could say is this was an unintended death resulting from him trying to restore order and control a mad man. If I’m on the grand jury the DA would have to show some serious intent for me to favor prosecuting.
HeloDude Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, nunya said: I agree, but this makes me sad for the state of the nation. I've personally seen chivalry and defense of another go sideways several times (although not to this extent) and it's just not worth it. Oh it’s messed up for sure, but that’s where we’re at. Eventually if it’s gets bad enough, then a strong majority of people will say it needs to stop. But we’re not even close to that point yet, so the insanity not only continues, it will get much worse.
Smokin Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Multiple teenagers beat some NYC subway riders just a few days later and put some of them in the hospital. Zero charges filed. This Marine's "crime" fits the political narrative, so he's being charged. That's the one and only reason. Unfortunately, most people who could and would help bystanders in the future will be far more reluctant to do so now and it's hard to blame them. The cops are apparently only there (if/when they're there at all) to arrest people after the fact IF they think the politically minded DA will press charges. 1 2
M2 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 2 hours ago, bfargin said: From what I’ve read from numerous sources, most agree that everyone around felt unsafe... Funny, that's the same argument being made to justify disarming law-abiding citizens! 😮😮😮
bfargin Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 I’m not seeing law abiding citizen out waving their guns at people threatening to kill themselves or the crowd around them. Not quite the same thing.
Jam Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, bfargin said: I’ll engage assuming you’re not being a troll. So in order to defend yourself and others, you have to actually be struck? From what I’ve read from numerous sources, most agree that everyone around felt unsafe and that the criminal was acting unhinged and threateningly. it also appears from the videos I’ve seen is he was trying to control the criminal and not kill him. From what i have seen and read, the most you could say is this was an unintended death resulting from him trying to restore order and control a mad man. If I’m on the grand jury the DA would have to show some serious intent for me to favor prosecuting. If he verbally threatened the man I could maybe understand, but that never happened either. So yeah, you can’t just choke someone out because you feel uncomfortable, It’s a dangerous precedent. I can see arguing manslaughter vs murder, but him calling it self defense is a joke Edited May 12, 2023 by Jam
VMFA187 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jam said: If he verbally threatened the man I could maybe understand, but that never happened either. So yeah, you can’t just choke someone out because you feel uncomfortable, It’s a dangerous precedent. I can see arguing manslaughter vs murder, but him calling it self defense is a joke 1 1
bfargin Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Jam, I haven’t found any video of the lead up to the actual hands on. How do you know he didn’t threaten anybody. One video i saw, there was one witness who said the wanted criminal was threatening them.
Jam Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, VMFA187 said: Stupid tweet bro, no one was attacked (except the homeless man) or sexually assaulted 🤷♂️ 7
VMFA187 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jam said: Stupid tweet bro, no one was attacked (except the homeless man) or sexually assaulted 🤷♂️ What about threats? Do those count or are you only allowed to act after someone has been hurt? Individuals at the scene said he said ‘I don’t care. I’ll take a bullet, I’ll go to jail’ because he would kill people on the train," the woman said of Neely. "He said, ‘I would kill a motherf—er. I don’t care. I’ll take a bullet. I’ll go to jail.’" So just wait for someone to get hurt and then act? Bro? Who the fuck are you? Some 2nd Lt waiting to start flight school? Edited May 13, 2023 by VMFA187
VMFA187 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bfargin said: Jam, I haven’t found any video of the lead up to the actual hands on. How do you know he didn’t threaten anybody. One video i saw, there was one witness who said the wanted criminal was threatening them. I’ve read accounts that he was threatening to kill people, have not seen video… Likely because it justifies the actions taken. Edited May 12, 2023 by VMFA187
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