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I can’t imagine that many people are truly anti-Tesla, or even EV in general. I bet the vast majority of the anti-“E” attitudes are simply pushback against progressive bullshit ideas like banning gas car sales by 2030, banning gas ovens, telling people they MUST go all electric or else, etc. I think EVs, solar, etc. are great ventures and I’m excited to see the tech progress. I also think they are not the panacea many leftist think they are and there is a LONG way to go before they are reasonable for many people in this country. Bottom line - progress the tech and people will naturally come to them as it makes sense for their life situations/desires (and to the leftist: WGAF if someone doesn’t share your EV love), or try to shove it down their throats and human nature says they’ll respond with a big “fuck you!”

There are totally valid reasons to have an EV, but being environmentally friendly isn’t one of them.

First beta tester results: Wife: “Seriously!!! Turbo Ass Blaster 3000?! We’re having a baby, not an Eagle driver. You need to take this seriously.” Husband: “Yes dear. And also to clarify, does that mean Hugh Jorgan is off the table too?”

I amend my previous statement, I’m willing to also offer her to serve the remainder of her commitment as a full time piss test monitor. All day, every day for the next 4-6 years. Or get out and incur 500M debt - her choice.

Never had an issue with PSA stuff - not sure I’d totally rely on them for defense, but they’ve not done me wrong for light range time.

It will be cool when someone (probably Tesla) makes a truck that’s worth a shit for those who need a “real” truck. If Elon can catch a rocket with chopsticks, I’m sure in time he’ll do that. Of course the catch is the infrastructure in said “market areas” is woefully behind being able to support such a product. I wonder if Elon can get involved in that.

It used to be easier, but now even an ATCAA (way less environmental impact vs. a MOA, temp or perm) will take 2-5 years to create under the new, draconian process. MOAs are advertised as a 10 year process (with a massive asterisk that says “never going to happen”). It’s a very anti-mil process and the FAA loves every bit of it.

That is awesome. How long does it take if you have a solid 1/4” thick ice shield in the morning?

Unless there’s a large enough existing MOA with capacity, it’s a non-starter. The FAA is horrendous to work with - it’s their kingdom and they don’t give a fuck about training, readiness, national defense, etc. To top it off the AF majorly bent the knee to them a few years ago and slammed some huge nails into its own coffin on the airspace front. Edit: I love the hypothetical idea, just am too jaded by the reality of bureaucracy that would immediately crush a good solution to a problem. Now if Elon gets involved, maybe we’re on to something!

The FAA reps at the initial pitch meeting:

She effectively has grifted the taxpayer. I hope she gets out and incurs a half mil in debt - sucks to suck.

And by a substantial margin

Are you getting it because you’re getting a new car anyways or is it because you want a more efficient commuter car while you use the “gas guzzler” when required? If it’s the latter, you should acknowledge the break even ROI is a LONG ways into the future and likely the whole idea makes zero logical sense if based on that line of thinking. Also, they are shit in cold weather…unless you’re doing short in town trips where you’re not leaving it parked for 1+ days. Not a factor if you live somewhere temperate.

Sounds good Joy, please take a trip to Gaza and let us know how it turns out!

@Smokin I’ve had good experience with several bullets and manufacturers (reloading and factory ammo), but I’m very interested in these all copper bullets now! When I get some time I’ll start with .308 and 30-06 loads and see how those do…coyotes will be a good test asset. Also, you can’t have too many hobbies.

Shack. I watched a guy watch a muley run away after shooting it with a 300 win mag…then my son completely disintegrated both lungs and dropped another muley where it stood with a 6.5CR (the guy eventually found his muley 400 yds away). 243s have taken many elk and my sons new-to-him 30-30 has a few elk and bear to its name. Hell, the 220 swift has killed tons of AK game in its history. It’s mostly about taking accurate, high pK shots with quality ammo, but the industry has convinced many hunters that’s not the case.

Haven’t shot those. Are you reloading with them or buying the factory ammo?

You’re doing it wrong! (Pro tip: keep the appearance of a budget up with the wife)

I’m not worried about legal in my state - the Sheriff will congratulate me on winning via a phone call since his deputies still won’t have arrived at my house. But I understand that’s not everyone’s state. That said, I don’t think it’s a good idea to let lawyer BS drive your “tactics.” And we’re all not obtuse to the point we don’t know there’s a right and wrong way to conduct yourself (including words) if you do interact with LE, lawyers, etc. Know the law, but no rational law is going to dictate injuring vs killing, using birdshot vs. slugs, etc. Batshit crazy states like CA or NY may, but that’s one’s own problem for living in those states to begin with. Birdshot - eh, go for it, I’m not saying it will do nothing, but I also don’t know a single pro I’ve interacted with who would ever suggest that as your first choice. 15 yr old punk coming through your window for a smash and grab, probably stops the threat. A couple strong 25 yr old men hopped up on meth (or if applicable in one’s area, a gang mis-IDing their house for a rival target), good luck with that one. Overall though, as a generic statement, practice with what you’ll use and you’ll be prepared. Think you’re going to unlock that safe in the middle of the night under stress to grab the 45 handgun you haven’t shot in 8 months - you’re fucked.

For a “thug of opportunity” who is actually a total pussy when confronted, sure. For someone on drugs/hardened, you are living way in “soft deterrent” land. Its far less effective than you think vs. those “real” threats. Watch someone take multiple 9mm or 556 and not even skip a beat as they keep coming at you - that will change your perspective. My BO kicks as much as a 22…there’s damn near no recoil. A 12ga is magnitudes more recoil - it’s emotional, no 12 ga recoils less than an AR in BO or 556 (assuming you’re using rounds that actually will kill a threat) Dangerous mindset in my opinion. In a defense situation, neutralize = dead, not injured. If you’re going to point a gun at someone/something and press the trigger, you should only do so with 100% commitment to killing. If you’re not trying to kill, don’t even point the gun. SOCOM uses 300BO/7.62 heavily in SBRs for tight spaces (e.g. HD scenario)…soooo, yeah I wouldn’t be so concerned about it (with the right ammo). I’ve killed several animals with it, zero expansion problems (foot stomp, right ammo). You can find YouTube videos across the entire spectrum that will support or “debunk” any cartridge…I don’t put much stock in any of those backyard experts. What do the pros say, what does professional data support?

I have some, just haven’t had time to work up a load. That said, they won’t be subs, and I also will never use reloads for defense.

@Smokin Cartridge matters as you pointed out - I personally run Hornady TAP 190gr subs, specifically addresses expansion at subsonic velocities. A suppressor is also very helpful in a HD situation (or really any situation).

@arg That’s not comforting. I hope she is directly asked about red flag laws and the age restriction thing - if her answer is anything other than, “I was wrong and those should not exist,” time to can her ass and make the 3rd pick.

@Lord Ratner Depends on the bullet used, but overall 300BO is a great compromise between over penetration and effectiveness. Birdshot is completely ineffective (I don’t recommend the shoot at a threat to scare them gameplan, shoot to kill is the best game plan) and buckshot will penetrate way more than 300BO. Regardless of weapon, absolutely important to think through where the high risk penetration shot directions are (e.g. shooting toward your kids bedroom), where the likely points of entry for a threat are, and how you can maneuver to minimize risk of lining those two things up. Bad guy gets a vote, but still something to think through before it happens. Shootability is based a lot on familiarity, but an AR is more “shootable” than a shotgun or large handgun for most people in terms of recoil, getting back on target after a shot, more capacity = less/no reloads, etc. Practice can majorly reduce that “shootability” difference for someone, but overall many women are going to be better off with an AR platform vs. the others. Their only hang up is emotional, which will go away if they learn how to use it.

@Biff_T