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a publicity whore will do pretty much anything degrading to entice the limelight their way. Fuck him. I do not see any terrorists going on Al Jizera (don't give a shit if I spelled it wrong) saying that the images of them videotaping the killing of American's with IEDs while chanting "aler ackbar" are haunting them. Some guys are just pussies.

Bullshit

More importantly who is that chick in your avatar and how can I further investigate dat ass?

It's funny because you have 2 seconds worth of experience and sacrifice under your belt, yet you try to pile on with the grey beards. Grey beard on an Internet forum does not make you an experience pilot. You're still in the stfu category, but keep on acting like you know it all. I think it's rich. As for Art, he's an idiot, but he's gotta learn somehow. Most of you are so butt hurt that he dared stand up to you it's laughable. Gimme a break. He's an ignorant kid looking for answers. I'll echo Zach braff's comments. Good advice with some ribbing, is good. Most of you have such hard-ons for your own "awesomeness" you can't actually see that you're being just as SNAPish. You're looking for offense and insults where none was seriously given. If this kid shows up to UPT with this attitude, game on. Tear him up, until then he's just a kid. But hey, I'm going against the grain, so I must be ridiculed as well. Go ahead, my ego can take it. I enjoy reading some of the idiotic things posted here, and the people that take themselves way too seriously. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Ha! The top 20% are often the best box checkers and ass kissers around. The fix: assign a few grey beard LTCs/Majs to each unit. When it comes time to give out PRFs, the Beard Council meets. With a beer in one hand and a poker hand in the other, the council racks and stacks the future leaders of the Air Force. Do this at every base and then we'll see some interesting things change. Assholes and ass kissers will get left in the dust. Words like "knows his shit" "takes care of the crew" "hacks the mish" "runs a solid ____ shop" "always mission ready" "mentors the new kids" will replace words like "AAD complete as 2Lt" "did PME 1st day available" "1st vol to run the CFC" and so on. Real quantifiers. Sadly, our system is like a dog chasing its tail. Our Sq/CCs and up got promoted on this system and that is what they push because its what their bosses use when they sit on a board. If a CC goes rogue and off-script, the DP givers (mosly) and boards discount the strays. The only way out is to replace the system with people that don't care about box checking AADs, etc because we know that doesn't really make anyone a better leader. The Beard Council may sound like a joke, but think about it for a minute. Out

The problem isn't in identifying who falls above/below your "red line." The problem is in the criteria that defines the line.

Still an asset... I guess someone thinks even the broken fuselage of a $65M aircraft is worth guarding until they either recover it or destroy it and gather the parts. That, or they don't want the Chinese getting ahold of our microwave oven and reverse-engineering it.

I feel pretty lucky in that case because while that definitely exists in Rescue, I feel like it has been minimal. For the most part, at least as of two years ago when last operational, it was known who we're the workers and who were the ones who avoided it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Art of War - in 24 years I moved my family 10 times (that is more often than 2.69 years.) Went on numerous deployments, missed several birthdays, holidays, anniversaries and got shot at. I am also on my second spouse - the first one got tired of all the moves. Still managed to watch my kids grow up. Just know that I was not home for dinner every night of the week. So it, might be a little early to decide that you know what you want in life 10 to 15 years from now but there is not much wrong with thinking about it. Also I knew 11 guys who died in aircraft accidents - none combat related. It is a dangerous business and while it has improved over the years, the only way to have zero accidents is to not fly. You just might have your kid(dies) grow up without you. Life has a way of throwing you unexpected curves regardless of how you think things are planned. Should you make it to commissioning, earn your wings and graduate from advanced training you might eventaully learn that your IPs, flight leads, aircraft commanders, squadron and wing leadership don't take kindly to "well I thought this and disagree with you..." Especially in public and when you have no leg to stand upon. It might not work out so well in the long run. An early lesson you might have learned here is to never miss an opportunity to STFU. GD SNAP.

I don't pretend for a second that being a grey beard on here means shit in the real world. I merely was pointing out that even when you are new you'll still be making sacrifices and doesn't fit with his dream life. Please point to me where I act like a know it all, I've been put in my place a time or two on here and it was well deserved.

Actually, I am feeling old and funny b/c the only people a 1Lt or 2Lt can shit on are the college students or ROTC/Academy cadets. Good job though and keep fighting the good fight (no sarcasm).

IMHO raters, senior raters and boards do value job performance and leadership the most. Back to my previous point, many of the disgruntled and passed over have a false sense of how good they really are. Perhaps it is because their bosses don't give them accurate feedback, perhaps because they are stupid or perhaps because they don't really know what being good at the primary job is. Stick and rudder skills are important, but self assessments of your ability to correctly perform flying duties and really get the mission done are sometimes inflated. The really good ones get latitude on AAD and DG at SOS and exec and all those other "boxes". The average and below average crew dogs may need something do distinguish their average to below average record and performance or they risk being passed over. The sports comparison is good. Why would I promote a player I hired to be QB to management or coaching if he had no desire to be a manager or coach, didn't think like a manager or coach and wasn't qualified to be a manager or coach, as defined by the owner not a locker room vote? The athlete was hired to do a specific job. It is amusing when they delve into areas they are not good at, aren't trained for and haven't been selected to do. The sports team owner will usually tell the mouthy QB to shut the ###### up and stick to what they are good at and were hired for. If you want to be in sports team management rather than just play, dive right in. Final sports thought, the all star team is not made up of people from one position. The team can't be all pitchers or QBs. Need some linemen and defensive men. That means there will be some pissed off QBs and pitchers who think they are better athletes on the all star team. The manager knows the rules and the overall objective and places the best right fielder in right field, even if his 5th best pitcher gets his feelings hurt and complains about the criteria for selection.

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Most Baseopers agree with what you are posting. However, this is a very disgruntled community of members and they don't come here to read the things they hear at work/PME from their leaders. They come here to bitch about those things. By the way, are you Gen Welsh? I've long suspected he is a lurker. If so, when is my vector coming?

I've never seen her with that much clothes on before.

Hey, if you're gonna do something, do it well...

Why would you post a pic of BQZip's mom?

I thought about posting a joke request to have my name changed to cleedingbunt... but for some reason I have a feeling that joke would be honored. So I'm not going to.

This is the funniest thing I've read here in a while....

Brand new. Just joined the board in 2006. Thanks for the heads up on everything about the board and the Air Force. Maybe you could mentor me from here out? If a guy showed up to pilot training talking like this kid - he deserves everything. But a kid who for christ's sake hasn't even joined ROTC yet?!?! Come on dude. A little ribbing is fine but some of these members were straight up dicks. Sure they're not anonymous within the Air Force, but they are to this guy. And then the kid gets some e-balls to stand up to the e-dicks and everyone got all butt hurt about it and ganged up on him. I highly doubt if this guy goes ROTC and gets his pilot slot or goes CE that he will show up to the Operational Air Force with this attitude. zb

Yawn... done in the '80s.

Kid - The guys on this board are very knowledgable about the Air Force and flying. And many are also knowledgable about the anonymity the internet offers which allows them to be dicks from the safety of their own computers. Keep in mind that this board is a d-ck measuring contest that happens to have a lot of very valuable info and humor about the Air Force. Once you weed through all the guys jumping at the chance to impress their internet friends by bullying a young kid just looking for some info you'll find some good advice here. Good luck. zb

Then you don't know anything about the military in general, and pilots in particular. If you want to ask a bunch of pilots what they think about your specific life choices with your fat wife, 2.5 kids, white picket fence and a golden retriever, be prepared to be addressed as a clueless college kid who is probably spending too much time in the library and not enough drinking shitty beer and chasing tail. But thanks for letting us know you are an oversensitive douchebag on your second post. You could have just as easily walked down to your ROTC detachment and asked them these same questions. Since they probably are looking for people they would have spared your sensitive ego the sarcastic and patronizing comments. Good luck.

And put hundreds of young women through college.

For the rest of my Herk brothers, I can hold speculation until the report comes out. I will read and learn from it just like I learned from the Al Jabber (sp?) the crash after takeoff from Baghdad, the class A that happened last year in AFG in a similar situation (porpoised assault landing), and even the recent 747 crash. What I will offer is that calling the go around is easier said than done for some reasons. If its looking ugly, I think (and hope) all of us will call the go. But sometimes the bad approach is overlooked, its called late and no one reacts (Jabber). Sometimes, it looks OK until the flare, they bounce and the pilot stops flying and rides it in. The DO, CC, Stan/eval, etc are not sitting on the bunk for every flight to keep an eye out on the newer and inexperienced. They see the dangers and talk about them all the time. I think they are so fucking relieved when they finally rotate home with everyone thay brought out thinking that they cheated the reaper. And its because the experience is so much lower that it used to be and gets lower every year. "You go to war with what you have" was a true statement, especially when it comes to people. DOs will do their best with what they have, talk to guys every mission, then pray that the kids show good judgement and enough skill to bring everyone back each day. It's a very tough fight to get/keep the people you need--AFPC/career progression get in the way. Out