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Just to be technically correct, they were aileron rolls.

Steve Davies off the top rope.

2x passover, no UIF, offered (but turning down) continuation. Forever grateful for the past decade, forever grateful I don't have to do another decade (or another 2 years.)

I'll reply here for the community knowledge. K11M3F, KC-135 IP. Passed over x2, involuntary separation. I want to confirm the whole no-continuation thing after the LtCol board snafu. Doubtless it was my active UIF that resulted in non-continuation (if true), though I was still surprised, since the PDSM for continuation only mentioned pending court-martial actions as deal-breakers, and I heard in the news the AF is short of pilots. I'm not 100% on how the invol sep pay works, but I think it's 100% base pay, which'll be about $73k. So that will obviously be immensely helpful. I also need to figure out if requesting an earlier involuntary separation date forfeits the severance pay. Feel free to throw any questions my way

Ultimately, this change being good or bad will now rest at the wing level. There will be commander's who do great things with it, and there will be those who royally screw it up. At least with a board, it was the sum input of all of your raters up to that point. Heaven help you if you aren't the anointed one by your current leadership.

T-1 C-17 - McChord x2 (one active, one reserve) C-17 - Dover C-17 - Charleston x2 (one active, one reserve) E-3 - Tinker RC-135 - Offutt KC-135 - March KC-135 - Birmingham C-130J - Yokota MC-130J - Mildenhall T-38 A-10 T-38 ADAIR T-38 FAIP Some Japanese studs as well in both T-1/38 sides.

Well, to make the experience less unpalatable, you could akways ask him who he thinks barrel rolls better: airline pilots or AF pilots (or maybe ex-AF airline pilots)?

Any word on CBM's drop?

Dafuq you need ATIS for if you're already on the ILS? Seriously, all the shit dudes have said here rings true. The only thing I'll add is that one's success in making the transition if you choose that path in the future isn't a given. It takes some work and a simple but crucial understanding that you're entering a completely different environment. Harder? Hell no, not by a country mile. Apply yourself maybe half as much as you did to get through UPT and you'll be fine. But thinking that being a SH Viper, Hornet, Raptor, -17, whatever guy is going to carry you through on its own is a mistake. Your mil status is also not a guaranteed job offer. The airlines don't start beating your door down when they find out you're available though, at the current hiring rate it may seem like that for some guys. Expect to put in some time prepping for interviews and realize you're breaking very new ground. There's lots of gouge from the bros out their and several well run companies that'll relieve you of a small, but worthwhile investment to make sure you're ready to sell yourself when the time comes. It's a multi-million dollar career that many mil guys have missed out on because they decided to wing it and figured WIC, a 1000 hours of IP time in the Viper or some other feather in their cap was going to make it a breeze. Not hard.....just different......way different. Oh and while I gocha here......The shit some mil guys do and say (the famous 5% we've all met) when they finally start their new careers would make you cringe. The tools who have come before you leave a lasting legacy. When you hear the stereotypes assigned to us all thanks to those clowns, you'll maybe have a slightly understanding of what it's been like being an Eagle driver since that fateful day at Kadena 30+ years ago . So, try to play nice with the civilians. Taking every opportunity to attempt to impress them with combat stories or "there I was" BS, making them feel inferior in general or lecturing them on how things were back in your old life isn't generally the best option. There will be plenty of bros in the other seat to swap stories with but not always. Also, accepting that airline X is paying your a shit-ton of money to fly their jet the way they want you to and not how you think it should be flown is also extremely helpful. Adjust accordingly and be one of the 95%. Good luck with whatever path you choose.

Pick the battles that are big enough to matter, but small enough to win....

Well, I read this two ways/have two opinions: 1) The flt/cc and/or IPs are trying to tell you that if you are only here to get your ticket into the airlines, you are here for the wrong reasons. What we do as military pilots may be similar (MAF) or not that close beyond the fact we are both in airplanes (CAF), but either way, this isn't Embry Riddle, so if that's what you are here for, get out. I see nothing wrong with setting that expectation right up front, especially with all the airline/AF exodus in the news; we don't want LTs who are just waiting for their clock to run out so they can go fly for the big 4 (we have enough O-4s doing that...) 2) You're goddamn right I'm better than an airline pilot. I'm also the best fighter pilot in the Air Force. If you don't believe me, come fly with me and I'll prove it. I say that with some sarcasm, but I also know I spent ten solid hours of academics about 2 months ago (and probably 480 more of self study) learning about to use M7.1 in my mighty viper and efficiently employ the 69 different weapons we carry. Not once did we talk about the fact that I am also flying an airplane at the same time (by myself #singleseat), and I'll have to recover it (via hand flying!) sometimes to 200' on an ILS. And I might have 3 wingmen following me around as well. That is just assumed. So when an entire airline pilot's - sorry, crew's - job is to take off, go somewhere else, and land, which is all of .80% of my cranium, yeah, I'll feel a bit superior. They can get butt hurt about that and cry during their drive home in their Maserati and lick their wounds while they don't work for a week, while I sweat my ass off in MOPP4. That's fine, that's the deal, and you bet your ass I envy them in some aspects. However, I also don't go around telling everyone I am better than an airline pilot, and they are just idiot bus drivers, or whatever. That's just poor form and seems petty. They have their benefits (QoL, money, etc) and I have mine (BFM, dropping weapons, shooting the gun, Red Flag, etc). No need for name calling, especially since some of them have been here and done this (ref Hacker above and many, many others on this forum)

From my perspective as a career fighter/trainer guy in the AF, and now having flown at both the regionals and the majors...could not disagree more. Herding airliners around the sky, from both an airmanship/decisionmaking/judgment/thinking perspective and a stick-and-rudder perspective, is "vastly" easier than 90% of the tasks I had to perform even as a wingman in the Strike Eagle. The military flying required greater "headwork" and flying skills on an acute basis, task-for-task and hour-for-hour. There are a good number of airline pilots that I work with now who would not last a day doing what I did for a career in the AF -- and I now, sadly, have to include myself in that description. My skills have atrophied even in a couple years of droning in the flight levels and babysitting the FMS. Even the most challenging situations I've run up against -- maintenance issues, challenging weather, dealing with unruly pax -- don't require the skill and proficiency I had even a handful of years ago when I was turning-and-burning for a living.

I'm talking about your paid 3 month European vacation…..and Bendy and Evil can suck it for liking your post. Living down the street from me is a gift, I expect worship. Now how do I like my own post.

Doesn't really matter. Fly a great jet and don't pass up an opportunity to shut up. Encourage your classmates to do the same.

You think we can handle that in this community?! We're lucky just to get the gear down on the right runway.

The real question is, can he get his own ATIS? Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

Jessica Davies

Clearly Florida is where it's at. All the outdoor goodness, cheap, and none of that fancy book learnin

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