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That is rapidly changing. After 10+ years of NGB and NGAUS leadership yelling from the rooftops, "We're just like active duty! Give us money! Give us equipment!", the guard has truly become the "operational reserve" that our senior leaders begged for. Of course they never considered the consequences. Most Guard babies that are airline eligible will be out of the Guard in the next 5 years, leaving only recently separated active duty and a few deployment-avoiding lifers who crave the opportunity created by the vacuum to make General at NGB or state staff. The culture will continue to shift toward an active duty-lite mindset - "90 day TSPs are nothing compared to the 180's I did on active duty!" The younger guard babies will be sorely disappointed by the few stories they remember hearing of how good the Guard used to be, and they too will punch at their earliest opportunity for the airlines. Federalization complete, the Guard will no longer be a proud collection of state militias comprised of local citizen soldiers, but rather a stopping point for those separating active duty, who have little knowledge of unit history or interaction with the local community. The active duty's culture and retention problems have already become the Guard's culture and retention problems, merely lagging by a few years.

Yeah, I'm with VFMA-187 on this. Big difference between combat ready and capable. Can't speak to heavy units, but from a fighter perspective, I think you're off base. Before I retired from the guard, with the exception of three guard babies, low time guy in my squadron had 2000+ hours. I don't know if every guy "cracked 3-1 or 3-3" buy they could all fly the shit out of the jet. Unless I chose to go light in a month, I usually flew as much if not more as a traditional than I did on AD. But, the thing to remember is the guard isn't supposed to provide a combat ready pilot tomorrow. It's a pool of mostly high time guys who have the experience base to be away from the jet for a few weeks or fly limited sorties. It's never been expected that an ANG unit would be the equivalent of a AD unit for day to day ops. If they're needed for combat ops, they're going to spin up quickly and be both combat ready and capable.

We need to go back to the 90 day deployments. 6 months is still way too long. So it costs more money. What costs more replacing O-4s who are burnt out or breaking those BS deployments between 2 people? Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums

Happening now to a former AGR in my unit. Resigned to go airline. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums

You're joking, right?! You did caveat your comment so I'll give you that. Which community are you referring to, because in my limited experience the ARC bubbas are full-up and have 2-3 times more experience as well.

I don't think CCs get a specific report on bonus takers, but it's pretty obvious in the ADSC date and reason coding on your SURF if you have/haven't....assuming anyone is inclined to check.

haha well I'll be damned...had me fooled!

Soon AFRC will have a board every ~6 weeks or so. Not sure exactly when that starts but it has already been approved, from what I am told. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums

"As Met" records were posted in PRDA for the P0517A board...must be getting close. Still no update on mypers since first week of April.

Didn't say it wasn't possible, only drawing a distinction between Flynn and Lichte due to their status at the time of their "misconduct." Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums

I doubt you'd get a waiver for an incentive flight, but the medical process for an incentive is nowhere near as in depth as a Class 1. A Flight Doc would have to say for sure, but everything is good now, I wouldn't think it would be an issue. Ejection seat aircraft do incentive rides all the time.

Cantfly, that Business Insider article is so on-point with the Air Force it's breathtaking. I'd say all 9 apply.

Copy, makes sense now.

It's funny because the last few we've sent to Phoenix from the Herk were the sewn-in kneepad types that we wanted out of the community. You're welcome.

Really doesn't matter if he did it on AD or not. As long as he's drawing retirement, Uncle Sugar can recall him back, and punish him via the UCMJ per 10 U.S. Code § 80. The Marines just did that to a retired Gunnery Sergeant who committed his crimes years after retiring. He's now in prison and will be getting a Dishonorable Discharge. https://www.jag.navy.mil/courts/documents/archive/2017/DINGER-201600108-PUB.pdf

Most people's ADSC are up in summer/fall... they probably caught up with last years seps, and aren't sure if it will continue this summer /fall because of all their awesome "fixes" to the system. They'll realize just as many are punching..... in the coming months

First, agreed. Second, I had Rat as a Sq/CC at home station and deployed. Check his bio, he was a -21/-141/-17 guy. He was Selva's Wing Exec at McChord while flying the -141. For the record Rat HATED the KC-135. He is the exact reason why the PHOENIX program should be canned. He only came to the -135 to get command, that was it. Funny, some of the biggest "skilled careerists" in my neck of the MAF are crossflow -130 guys who volunteer for every GO visit, leadership "lunch and learn", and cookie bake off.

In AMC (which is probably the most toxic community) get rid of the PHOENIX programs. You get career Airlifters in Tanker squadrons that: 1. Don't give a shit about the mission or community. 2. Are only there to check the box and get command. 3. Never grew up in the community, so of course they don't know how it's ran. Same could be said for the Tanker "management" that goes to command Airlift squadrons. Also the majority of folks who PHOENIX programs are the ones that sucked in their original MWS and never flew. But they're the ones who were the Exec/CAG/Guy who shouldn't be flying, so of course they'll get a great strat. Then they'll cross flow into the other side of AMC where they'll be Exec/ADO guy who doesn't fly a lot, doesn't know the new jet at all, and is just hanging on to go to school. Other communities don't do this type of program, don't know why the MAF feels why they have too.

So just like AD then?

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Anyone hear from the 78th ARS?

No apologies necessary. There are major differences in the syllabuses between UPT and ENJJPT, but history shows that it doesn't necessarily create a superior product regardless of the ENJJPT talking points. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums

The shoe clerks have won, almost 2 pages talking about whether convenience stops are allowed in OCPs.

You know, I googled my own name, and was surprised to find out that I am not actually an officer in the USAF because there's no open-source documentation of my commissioning.

Strafe was in the first week of Desert Storm. 58 FS (or I suppose TFS in those days). 1st time was against trucks which they actually hit. The pilots did not report it but AWACS reported the event. The second time, in a 24 hour period, same squadron, on a Candid, on the ground. One of the Eagles was almost shot down by an SA-6. The Candid did have a wing knocked off. Next day, ATO stated "F-15 NO STRAFE." Gen Horner apparently was not happy about the whole thing. No, I was not there in that squadron but I just walked down the hall to talk to the guy who was there when it happened. I was busy flying from the LIK where our F-16s were told not to strafe with the gun prior to dropping bombs. F-16 drivers, imagine if you will: roll in, AG called up, go DGFT, strafe while stepping on the rudder to spray 20mm everywhere (and I mean everywhere), then go back to AG and put the pipper on the tgt. The leadership at the LIK was not impressed - directive came out "no more F-16 ground strafe prior to dropping bombs." The guy who started it did it because his old man flying Jugs in WW II, would strafe with the guns while on a bombing pass as it caused the bad guys to duck rather than shooting at him. Whoda ever thought? Does this derail this thread?? Edit: spelling....

FWIW,... around '95 when I was a PIT IP, we had a C-model pilot going through the course, and he was one of the guys that got his wrist slapped for strafing with the Eagle. Sorry, I cannot remember his name. But I remember talking about it with him, as it was the first time I had heard of it. At the time, I recall being pretty impressed, and thinking that was pretty cool, considering the fact they had very little dedicated training for that scenario. Come to think of it, I still think it's pretty cool.

I'm only asking that, if the entire goal of the program was transitioning people from the military to the civilian sector through college, we've pretty much fulfilled that goal, no?