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Azimuth There is a reason that people refer to the uniform correction act as getting "Chiefed" and not as getting Capt'd or Major'd. While I have been corrected by a Lt for a uniform infraction (honest mistake at the time) it's always the MSgt and above that are in the full out sprint, almost breaking a leg in order to be "first" to nab the uniform criminal. I was Chiefed at 2am...in the RLB bathroom....at Bagram....in Jan during a snow storm because my unit issued thermals (desert colored to match desert FDU) that I was wearing under my PT/sleeping attire trying not to freeze to death because the heat pump in my room was hard broke, was not the approved black or blue authorized color. Cap-10 Edit: I type gooder

Year groups are the single worse thing the military has going for itself.

....or that Major Cox's senior defense counsel's name is McKissack.....this has to be a joke. On a side note...for those of you worried about the FSB, we have a groper, a deserter, 37 cheaters, all kinds of sexual harrassers/assaulters and pot smokers all in the news now. I think it is safe to say that all of your VSP packages will be denied...we have enough volunteers. Now get back to work and start packing...we have 365s for all of you!

That should be part of it as well... Still think we should root out the avenue for funding it and acknowledge that CGOs pursuing AADs unless specifically assigned as part of their AFSC is a waste of time/money. Even better (in addition to the above): remove everything except "Performance in Primary Duty" from award templates/1206s. No more "Base/Community Involvement". No more "Significant Self Improvement".

I know that couch from somewhere....

So let me get this straight… Still waiting on a "vector" from the CSAF, just got told on the Friday before Christmas that you might get a pink slip with an offer to apply for VSP/TERA where everyone had to show their cards to their boss only to have an 11th hour "just kidding" message come out from A1 and your future pensions were just compromised to ensure we can get more sub-par F-35s that we don't really need to the absolute silence of every General Officer… and we are on page 3 celebrating colored t-shirts and "fun meter" patches?!? Looks like Big Blue won this round… pretty sad.

It was inevitable, the same thing happened to the Nazis when they brought back Hawaiian shirt day...

In some cases, the cigarette and coffee stench wafted over to the left seat from the co-pilot **cough**Bender**cough cough**

Very true. It's a shame these kids will never get to experience telling the nav to shut up or the joys of smelling stale cigarette smoke and coffee coming from the engineer.

In my opinion, the reason for this is the interaction that most operators have with senior NCOs, and more specifically the interaction that most senior NCOs have with operators. Look at the command structure in most wings - your highest officers are the DOs, deputy commanders, and commanders, and your highest NCOs are generally first shirts, superintendents, and command Chiefs. By the nature of their job, the enlisted leadership do not deal with officers, but unfortunately from my experience until the last couple years it also tends to mean they don't interact with them. My entire flying career the only NCOs I dealt with on a working level were the NCOICs of SARM/HARM and life support. Until I was a major I was addressed directly by E-9s only twice; once for acknowledging but not returning an airmen's salute on the flightline (because it's no salute and my gear was in my right hand), and once for having my flight suit sleeves pushed up. In my last two assignments that has changed significantly, but I put that more specifically on the senior enlisted personnel in those two assignments. The first shirts and chiefs actually get out among the populace to interact rather than solely being a reactive entity and only dealing with enlisted personnel. So when someone's only interaction with an E-9 is him acting as a uniform nazi, it is understandable why they have that impression.

yes, this has already been reported in the AFTO 781 and is being worked. Parts on MICAP.

Wait--I thought you rotorheads sneered at anyone who needed an airport to begin with....

Someone should get BODN accredited as a masters program.. 8 pages of discussion boards on something irrelevant to the mission of the AF=a standard one each masters class

The ATC guys may have fucked up, but at the end of the day the dude or dudette flying that plane landed at the wrong fucking airport. Marconi does not make airplanes fly.

I'm rattling around the idea that "the timeline" is at the core of the problem. We "have" to put certain people in certain positions to keep them "on time" and I think it hurts the overall organization.

Exactly. How much fun would it have been to inform the Captain that he was in violation of AFI 34-1201 para 2.30 which clearly states, "An automobile plate indicates the official status or rank of the senior military individual occupying the vehicle. The plate will be removed or covered when the individual for whom the plate is issued is not in the vehicle." What a douche canoe. You could have also asked to see the completed AF 1800 to ensure that the proper government vehicle inspection had been completed prior to operation. The only thing that is worse than people wandering around enforcing meaningless AFI's is people wandering around and enforcing incorrect meaningless AFI's.

This is about right.

You make some very good points. I don't have the time for a proper response, but here are a few choppy thoughts. Yes, we focus on the wrong shit too much and we let it take too much of our time. We need to stop sweating the small shit. CSAF helped us with that. CSAF will release guidance to not consider AAD for Maj and Lt Col. I wish he would move faster on that. Just finished the O-5 MLR and most had it done. We did not deduct points for no AAD, but the lack of AAD was probably a factor for no strats. He will need to put out guidance to sr raters to not consider AAD during strats or job selection for it to be truly effective. It was the promotion board that held AAD in such high regard. The senior raters and commanders were trying to align their priorities with the board priorities. We need to fix it and stop telling Capts and Majs to get AADs done to be competitive. That one comes from the top. Agree, leadership by email and MFR sucks. Group and wing commanders don't have time to sit in 2-6K offices and chat, but their target audience to lead is commanders and chiefs. Getting out and staying in touch with the force is very important. Sq CCs need to do this all the time. We pick the wrong people because you never know how someone will do at the next level. We can mentor and guide, but sometimes we need to remove and replace. Nothing personal but past performance does not guarantee future performance. Not all officers are professional and most need to be mentored regularly. Trust and empower, but monitor, mentor and adjust when required.

Did you correct the captain for having a placard without the DV on board?

Couldn't even get an f'in dip clearance for overflight last month...now they are crying for help.

I spent considerable time in Fallujah during the spring of 2004 and that whole town can be turned into glass for all I care!

"We're past the point of doing everything just because it says so in an [Air Force Instruction]," Welsh said. "If it wastes our time, we should stop, and we should stop today."

It's their country now, they can do what ever they want with it. If they don't like terrorists taking a city, then they'll go kick ass. If they tolerate it, now we know how much they care. If we even hint at bailing them out, then will always seek to have us bail them out. Time to stand like a man or cower like sheep. It's fucking pathetic that our military leaders are even putting intent on newspaper to bail them out. Out

speaking of slow, see post 5.

They already took down that mill and replaced it with a FACTory.

Do you think I actually read these threads?

That's painting with a pretty broad brush. So let me get this straight... Staff workers and leadership = automatically stupid, unenlightened UMB wearer who passed his eye test at age 20 but has next to ZERO developed leadership skills = automatically brilliant, enlightened Somehow, I don't think so... Friendly prediction/advice: You're headed for a great big surprise once you leave the AF, unless you lose your attitude and start showing other people respect in a hurry. Discounting others' opinions and ideas because you come across as a "legend in your own mind" will prove to be a quick path to the door for you. Final thought: Remember that life outside the AF is not optimized for pilots, and they are pretty much a dime a dozen (translation - MANY more applicants than positions)-- it's how well you are able to work with others that will determine whether you remain employed, or end up an unemployed blowhard. Best of luck... K

Who would the regular American believe more on Fox/CNN? Maj John Doe or Lt Col John Doe?

Glad you understand CGOs have their place and time..We'll ask for their opinion when we want it and when it is appropriate... K