April 30, 20196 yr Was helmet art ever really an Air Force thing? The Navy has always seemed to be the one into the heritage of aircraft and helmet designs. I do think it’d be cool to have a badass squadron aircraft or more than a gray helmet. Edited April 30, 20196 yr by Hawg15 Phrasing
April 30, 20196 yr I looked once and didn't see anything that said we couldn't but really other than demo teams and old school Vietnam helmets I haven't seen it done that often.
April 30, 20196 yr The fun police killed that years ago. I’m surprised the helo dudes have been getting away with it.
April 30, 20196 yr Our AFE guys would shit a f'ing brick if they saw that. I've had my helmet made "AFI-compliant" so many times in the last 5 years, my pencil has logged more NVG time than my actual eyes have.
April 30, 20196 yr Related topic-helmet bags. I remembered as a student many of the IPs having patches seen onto their helmet bags, or had their name/wings embroidered onto the bag. Now it seems that's few and few between. Did that tradition die, or is it just dead in my corner of the AF?
May 1, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Sprkt69 said: The fun police killed that years ago. I’m surprised the helo dudes have been getting away with it. The mask isn't AFE equipment
May 1, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, jazzdude said: Related topic-helmet bags. I remembered as a student many of the IPs having patches seen onto their helmet bags, or had their name/wings embroidered onto the bag. Now it seems that's few and few between. Did that tradition die, or is it just dead in my corner of the AF? Back then a lot of those IPs would’ve been fighter guys who got their helmet bags custom made in Songtan.
May 1, 20196 yr You can take Patches and get them sewn onto helmet bags on base or wherever you get uniform alterations done. If you have a motivated LPA, you can get all sorts of good swag. However, that seems to be few and far between these days. Visor covers are the closest thing I’ve seen to helmet art and those are alive and well.
May 1, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, uhhello said: The mask isn't AFE equipment Do you think the Bobs care about that? There is probably an E-9/O-6 that is about to lose it because it’s not fair or professional
May 1, 20196 yr The mask isn't AFE equipmentIt 100% is AFE equipment, it's just some AFE shops don't care. From what I've heard (at least for the 56/P) painting the helmet prevents them from inspecting it for cracks , soft spots, and delaminations since the paint and clear coat could mask it. Also they don't want to be liable if they damage your $ 200 paint job replacing the visor cover.
May 1, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Breckey said: It 100% is AFE equipment, it's just some AFE shops don't care. From what I've heard (at least for the 56/P) painting the helmet prevents them from inspecting it for cracks , soft spots, and delaminations since the paint and clear coat could mask it. Also they don't want to be liable if they damage your $ 200 paint job replacing the visor cover. The masks aren't accountable items nor are they inspected. They aren't AFE equipment after they hand it to you.
May 1, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, Breckey said: It 100% is AFE equipment, it's just some AFE shops don't care. From what I've heard (at least for the 56/P) painting the helmet prevents them from inspecting it for cracks , soft spots, and delaminations since the paint and clear coat could mask it. Also they don't want to be liable if they damage your $ 200 paint job replacing the visor cover. That’s a great example of “come up with an official reason so we don’t have to tell them the real reason.” Cracks, lol. Navy dudes completely cover theirs in tape.
May 2, 20196 yr 22 hours ago, MechGov said: Did the AF ever really get into helmet art? Yes. Back in the 70s they were doing it. It died sometime in the 80s when AFE decided that all helmets should look identical with no tape covering. That made it easier for them to find cracks in the shell.
May 3, 20196 yr I went to ACC years ago when I asked if I could fly with my custom gloss black helmet in the F-16 (from F-117 days) and was told no (by the E-9 who was responsible for the reg) because it could present an IR signature to the enemy......I am not making this up. Edited May 7, 20196 yr by Darth I cannot type worth a damn...
May 6, 20196 yr On 5/4/2019 at 12:08 AM, Darth said: I went to ACC years ago when I asked if I could fly with my custom gloss back helmet in the F-16 (from F-117 days) and was told no (by the E-9 who was responsible for the reg) because it could present an IR signature to the enemy......I am not making this up. Why would you ask for permission instead of forgiveness?
May 6, 20196 yr Because AFE had a nasty habit of stealing/throwing away stuff they think it's not authorized
May 7, 20196 yr Yes. Back in the 70s they were doing it. It died sometime in the 80s when AFE decided that all helmets should look identical with no tape covering. That made it easier for them to find cracks in the shell.Wow. That’s digging into the way back machine.Early 80s USAF must have been awesome
May 7, 20196 yr 22 hours ago, war007afa said: Why would you ask for permission instead of forgiveness? The life support guys (whom I liked) asked me to please get permission as they were letting me fly with it and maintaining it.
May 12, 20196 yr I was in one of the last UPT classes with the white helmets 86-87.. Part of UPT tradition was we designed a class patch, and also a class Helmet design. Nobody flew with a plain white helmet.
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