ShavedDogsAss Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I searched around but could not find the school list online. Has this been posted to MyPers? If so how do you get to it? Yup. Posted today. Just search "PSDM" Other note: If someone drops papers for a school other than Maxwell, how do they name someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Yup. Posted today. Just search "PSDM" Other note: If someone drops papers for a school other than Maxwell, how do they name someone else?It's PSDM 13-111 for those of you searching. Edited November 14, 2013 by Champ Kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11F Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Other note: If someone drops papers for a school other than Maxwell, how do they name someone else? There's an alternate list rack and stack. They use that to determine who goes where if someone declines school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialD Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 There's an alternate list rack and stack. They use that to determine who goes where if someone declines school.It's down in the ladies room... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scudrunner12 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Any new RUMINT on SOS going back to 5 weeks long in the Spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak47 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Yes. Currently at Shoe Flag and being told that they're working on figuring out the final details of implementation. Either we'll be the last 8 week class or the next one will, so the answer's "how soon," not "if." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 they're working on figuring out the final details of implementation. Jesus Tapdancing Christ. How about someone just says, "Hey how were we doing SOS three years ago? Ok, blow the dust off and let's do that again." The USAF: making shit more difficult than it needs to be since 1947. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Hungus Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 The USAF: making shit more difficult than it needs to be since 1947. Pretty much sums everything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Yes. Currently at Shoe Flag and being told that they're working on figuring out the final details of implementation. Either we'll be the last 8 week class or the next one will, so the answer's "how soon," not "if. Heard the exact same thing...over a year ago. It'll probably happen, but believe it when you see it. Edited November 17, 2013 by brabus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flare Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 When you finish up one class in ACSC, how do you get Blackboard to let you start the next one? I "enrolled" in the next one via the AUSIS page, but it shows stuck on the previous class still. In an unrelated story, ACSC is a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarHeelPilot Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 It takes 6-9 hours, sometimes a full day for Blackboard to accept the enrollment in AUSIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 (edited) When you finish up one class in ACSC, how do you get Blackboard to let you start the next one? I "enrolled" in the next one via the AUSIS page, but it shows stuck on the previous class still. In an unrelated story, ACSC is a waste of time. Before you can register for the next course, the old class has to be "graded," even though it was all online and automated. Do you think they are working over the Thanksgiving weekend at Air University? Look for that class to be "graded" sometime Monday afternoon or later. Then you can register in AUSIS for the next class. You will get emails when they grade the course and code it as "passed," thus allowing you to register for the next one. Some of us posted a little about the DL 6.0 class in the ASCS OLMP thread. Those posts probably should have been in this thread instead. The enrollment issue was addressed there. Edited November 30, 2013 by JS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossHarris Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Do you think they are working over the Thanksgiving weekend at Air University? Do you think any of the instructors are actually at maxwell? That project got contracted out rather quickly. Next time you chat with an instructor, ask them where they are, what else they do for a living, and how the instructor side of the house works. If you find one that will show you behind the curtain it's fairly interesting .... And maybe a decent side job if you can get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Sounds interesting. Maybe I can score a gig like that later on. I figured the instructors were all over, but I assumed the AUSIS people who generate the mouse clicks that grade your automated online course were not instructors, but admin people at Maxwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scudrunner12 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Will SOS 14C be a 5-week course? Any new words? ------------------------------------- ...don't RIF me, bra Edited January 4, 2014 by scudrunner12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HU&W Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) No. They've slid the implementation at least one class to the right. 14C = 8 weeks. http://www.au.af.mil/au/soc/course_dates.asp (note the lack of astericks after 14C) *edited for double post Edited January 4, 2014 by HU&W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slc Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Is ACSC doable on a 4 mo deployment? Or are you busting balls to get it done in that timeframe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddhaSixFour Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Not likely. You could do the work in four months, but you'll have delays getting signed up for each applied course. It's about two weeks after you finish a CBT course before you can start the applied. My bet is you could get about 2/3s done with about two-months to go once you got home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hispeed7721 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Will SOS 14C be a 5-week course? Any new words? ------------------------------------- ...don't RIF me, bra Just got words from the 2-star here at AU that sometime in late FY14, SOS will migrate to a 5 week course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chida Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 As for ACSC timeline, here's what I'm looking at: - The courses are done sequentially - Applied courses are online seminars and have additional work (papers) - Other courses consist of reading some excerpts and take a short multi-choice online test. - The online tests are pass/fail, but if you fail you can re-take the test unlimited times - You can't sign up for the following course until you finish the preceding course. - After you finish a course it takes 12-24 hours for it to be graded, allowing you to sign up for the next course. After you sign up for the next course it takes 12-24 hours before you can actually start that course. This is for online courses. Seminar courses have a different set of rules. The courses are: 1. Orientation 2. Leadership and Command 3. Applied Leadership and Command 4. National Security 5. Applied National Security 6. Warfare Studies 7. Airpower Studies 8. Applied Warfare 9. Joint Forces 10. Joint Planning 11. Joint Air Ops 12. Applied Joint Warfare So, courses 3, 5, 8, and 12 are applied courses meaning they are the online seminar format. These have limited attendance opportunities throughout the year and a sign-up deadline approx. 2 weeks before course start. These are the ones that slow down the entire process, I think by design. For example, my next course is #3, the sign-up deadline is 17 Feb and start date is 3 Mar. So it will have been 1 month since I finished the last online course before I can progress again. Some applied courses end and then the next one you need to take has a registration deadline a couple days later. Problem is you might have to do 2 online courses and a paper in those 2 days. Pair that up with the inherent delays in getting a course graded and signing up for the next course and it seems unlikely that ACSC can be done in less than 6 months. If you don't make the registration deadline you have to wait a month in some cases for the next opportunity to start that applied course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akele Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Has anyone taken the OLMP-Leadership degree (the captains one) and then take this new ACSC distance learning course??? Just wondering if it is different or pretty redundant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Finished ACSC in about 4.5 months. It can be done, although I don't see how it can be done any faster than that considering you have to wait in between applied courses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Just got words from the 2-star here at AU that sometime in late FY14, SOS will migrate to a 5 week course It only took what, two years to make this ridiculously simple change happen? We are an immovable, bloated, disgrace of an organization. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcola Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 As for ACSC timeline, here's what I'm looking at: - The courses are done sequentially - Applied courses are online seminars and have additional work (papers) - Other courses consist of reading some excerpts and take a short multi-choice online test. - The online tests are pass/fail, but if you fail you can re-take the test unlimited times - You can't sign up for the following course until you finish the preceding course. - After you finish a course it takes 12-24 hours for it to be graded, allowing you to sign up for the next course. After you sign up for the next course it takes 12-24 hours before you can actually start that course. This is for online courses. Seminar courses have a different set of rules. The courses are: 1. Orientation 2. Leadership and Command 3. Applied Leadership and Command 4. National Security 5. Applied National Security 6. Warfare Studies 7. Airpower Studies 8. Applied Warfare 9. Joint Forces 10. Joint Planning 11. Joint Air Ops 12. Applied Joint Warfare So, courses 3, 5, 8, and 12 are applied courses meaning they are the online seminar format. These have limited attendance opportunities throughout the year and a sign-up deadline approx. 2 weeks before course start. These are the ones that slow down the entire process, I think by design. For example, my next course is #3, the sign-up deadline is 17 Feb and start date is 3 Mar. So it will have been 1 month since I finished the last online course before I can progress again. Some applied courses end and then the next one you need to take has a registration deadline a couple days later. Problem is you might have to do 2 online courses and a paper in those 2 days. Pair that up with the inherent delays in getting a course graded and signing up for the next course and it seems unlikely that ACSC can be done in less than 6 months. If you don't make the registration deadline you have to wait a month in some cases for the next opportunity to start that applied course. Good info. You can speed this up slightly by signing up for and completing the next self paced course in the sequence while waiting on your applied course to start. For instance, you finished Leadership and Command and signed up for Applied L&C. While waiting the two weeks for the class to start, you can sign up and complete National Security. I found out about it and ops checked it by enrolling in both, but then I got lazy and never worked on the Natl Security one. I guess someone more motivated than I could speed up the process that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chida Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Cool. I didn't know that. So with that, looks like ACSC will take me 27 Jan - 20 Jun, so <5 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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