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  1. I have been with this board since shortly after its inception - I joined as a young Captain and tapered off after retiring two years ago as a Lt Col. Due to my departure and shrinking level of current USAF knowledge, my contributions to this board have diminished. But it occurred to me after a PM from a board member that myself and others in my situation still have a valuable contribution to those who are looking towards a post-AF career. So I'm starting this thread as a specific Q&A for airline hiring, with emphasis on direct connection to guys working for the airlines who can mentor and assist. I am not posting this in the "Leaving the Air Force for the Airlines" thread because I want this to be less bitching and more informational. For those who currently fly, please chime in and provide credentials. Ideally we can provide an accurate picture of what it's like for our specific airlines. I'll start. American Airlines DFW 737 First Officer. Feb 2016 hire, previously MIA based. The grass is definitely greener - no queep, no work once you're done. On reserve, 12/13 days off a month and guarantee pay of 73-76 hours a month as a reserve pilot (higher pay as a lineholder). Commuting blows ass, first year pay ain't great, but 2nd year pay is equivalent to my retirement pay as an O-5. Some of the work rules aren't great, but from a relative perspective of 20 years in the Air Force, this is a sweet gig.
  2. Airline hiring prep, gouge, advice

    Just relax and be yourself. My personal 0.02 is not to get too wrapped up with your interview Q&A. I did ECIC, but elected not to do the phone follow up because I didn't want to come off as having canned answers. Rather than try to think of stories for every possible TMAAT scenario, I tried to pick 6-9 stories that each covered several question areas so I could apply one to a number of different questions. Below is what I summarized for the AA hiring process to several people who followed me. I have attached a close version of the cognitive test they use. ------------------------------- Here’s a bit of a timeline of what you can expect during the application / hiring process. For me it was about six months from when I submitted my application to when I received an email for a video interview, but this was in mid-2015 when the high number of furlough recalls and flow-through guys caused them to stop interviewing for a while. The first response you'll get is an email from AA Support Department (aasupport@pilotcredentials.com) asking you to do a video interview. Make sure you check your junk mail regularly and/or add that e-mail to your filters. I've heard of lots of folks who missed notifications that went to junk mail. You have a few days to do the video interview. If you already have your suit, wear it. If you don't, at least wear a nice shirt and tie. Do it against a neutral background and remove any distractions (wife, kids, pets, turn off phones, etc.). Have a piece of paper and pen handy. It's not an interview per se, you'll be asked five pre-recorded questions and after a 60 second prep period to compose your answer, it will start recording and you'll give your answer (which can be up to three minutes). If you don't already read Airline Pilot Forums, I would recommend it. There are a lot of topics, but for American there is long running thread about the interview process. Here is my best memory at the expanded video interview questions: 1 - "Why do you want to fly with AA?" 2 – You are given a brief about an approach (frequencies, altitudes, runways, etc.). You’re not specifically told to write it down, but you’re told to have a pen/pencil and paper beforehand, so I recommend writing it down as it’s being given to you. When you brief it back, try not to make it too obvious that you’re reading it from the paper. 4 – I was given a notional airport and five NOTAMs about the airport. You needed to pick your top 3 concerns and brief why they might be a problem. I don’t remember them all, but the ones I picked were nearby VFR traffic (might be a hazard, especially if they’re not talking to anybody or on flight following), tendency to be switch to a different runway on final (potential for runway incursion/violation), and potential for fog to pop up (possibility to have to hold or divert with short notice). 5 - TMAAT you had to deal with a delay with customers. I explained that I have never dealt with it in a traditional sense, but that my job as a fighter pilot was always to be in place on time to support troops on the ground (my customers). I explained having had weather delays while flying commercial, and chatting up other folks who were likewise delayed and explaining that it was beyond the control of the airline. Most folks consider the video interview a formality - they just want to make sure you don't have three eyes, and you can compose a few sentences and not sound like a bumbling idiot. About two weeks after the video interview is done you should receive an email from the AA support department asking you to input additional info (SSN, DOB) into Pilot Credentials (check your junk mail). I'm guessing they start your background checks with this info. A week after I entered the info I received a call for a face to face interview. The interview is a two day process and they will get you a round trip flight and hotel. The first day is business casual (slacks and a collared shirt). They collect your paperwork and give you a cognitive test called Pilot Skills Test. It seems very similar to Delta's test, however, the unofficial word is that these tests are a data point for reference only and it does not affect your outcome. They are designed to test you to failure - I felt drained and like I failed by the time it was complete (it's about four hours total). The attached PPT covers what you can expect to see. Second day is the interview process. They read from scripts and a list of questions, but it still led to a good amount of back and forth and seemed very casual once we started going. The first interview is with a pilot crew - one Captain and one FO in most situations. They start with introductions of themselves and don't ask about your background (they have studied your resume and will tell you what you did...."So when you were flying XXXX at XXXXX, tell me about....") Here's the questions I got... TMAAT you had a crew member give you criticism you didn't like or didn't think was warranted. Tell me how important communication is, how you communicate and break down barriers to communication. TMAAT you intervened in something flying related that you thought was unsafe. TMAAT you didn't get along with somebody TMAAT you disagreed with a policy Then they went to scenarios. They had a 3x5 spiral notebook with what I'd guess was at least 20 scenarios. They picked three total, and for each one they read it aloud and gave me as much time as I wanted to think. During my response, it was somewhat interactive - I feel like it was supposed to cover several areas of responses, and if I was missing something, they would give me a prod in the right direction. My Scenarios: - You're holding #3 for takeoff on runway 27 with a thunderstorm six miles off the field to the west. An aircraft taking off requests an immediate turn to 180 to avoid the storm. An aircraft landing on 33 reports windshear on final and loss of 15 knots. Winds are 290 at 15G23. Now you're #1 and cleared for takeoff - WWYD? I tried to gather as much SA on the weather from available resources (departing aircraft, weather, dispatch), and after conferring with the FO the decision was basically that if we could do it safely, we would take off. If there was any doubt that the weather (thunderstorms and windshear) were going to be a factor, we would delay on the ground. When I directed all my attention to taking off (or not taking off) from runway 27, one of my guys said, "What about runway 33?" which prompted a few more points of discussion since it wasn't a takeoff directly into the storm. - You're at FL350 going into JFK and you're at the point where you need to descend. Weather is right at CAT I mins at JFK and very low at nearby alternates. You query the controllers and get no response, and when you go back to your previous frequency you likewise get no response. You're doing 530 GS - WWYD? I basically ran NORDO procedures in detail from approach to rollout. - Third scenario was that you show up to the gate as the Captain and find that the aircraft has a hydraulic malfunction that is going to delay it for 3.5 hours. I said I would standby the gate crew as they made announcement (or make it myself if they weren't around to do it), then be ready to calm down angry passengers. They asked how I was going to calm people down; explain that I had the same interest in getting home - maybe it was my last flight of the day and I want to get home to see my family - but I can't have my passengers on an unsafe aircraft. Try to coordinate for alternate flights with open seats, maybe a standby aircraft. Keep in touch with MX for the status. Regarding the information or wait time, they asked if I would lie to the passengers to calm folks down, and I told them absolutely not. The next was a one-on-one HR portion that seemed very (almost too) short with only two questions and a little paperwork. - For the first question, she took out the first (NORDO) scenario from my previous interview and said, "I'm not a pilot, tell me what this scenario means in layman's terms." I dumbed it down to civil speak and there was no follow up discussion. - Question 2 "What are the factors that affect airline profitability?" This seemed completely out of left field, so I stumbled for a bit, but then talked about the number of airplanes, routes, and pilots. Talked about assessing routes and streamlining or removing routes were passenger numbers were low. I mentioned the recent US Airways merger and combining forces., as well as gas prices I didn't feel like my answer was great, but I couldn't gauge her impression on my answer. AA Cognitive Test V4.pptx
  3. Leaving the Air Force for the Airlines

    I'm about two years in. Happy to answer any questions if you want to PM.
  4. USAFA: Being masculine is bad

    He didn't accuse anybody of being racist. He addressed the issue by stating how it should be dealt with.
  5. The subject has been touched on in the past, but I'd like to open a thread to highlight all that is lame with current Ops at the 'Deid. When the shooting war was starting, everybody was too preoccupied with the no-$hit mission to worry about queep. Then the jets started coming back with bombs and the shoe clerk mentality started to grow. Here's my first story - Over in 'Ops Town' we had a bathroom that was just a short walk from our Ops Tent. By the time we got there, there was a good deal of penned-in graffiti on the walls of the $hitters. Standard $hitter immature crap. Well somebody got fairly pissed about it, sent in some dudes to paint over the walls and then decided the problem would be solved by TAKING THE CRAPPER DOORS OFF! So now anybody who wanted to take a dooker had to do so in front of God and anybody else who decided to walk in. This same c@ckslap O-5 sent a message to '379AEW/ALL' lamenting on the situation of the crappers and announced that the bathrooms were now starting on a clean slate. Our motivated lieutenants temporarily solved the problems by going to the BX and buying shower curtains which they draped over the crappers for provacy. But at some point before the curtains were installed, the first lick of graffiti was written on the crapper wall -- "CLEAN SLATE!"
  6. Latest Movies

    I thought it was fantastic, but if it's been a while since you've seen the original, get yourself a refresher - I hadn't seen the original for at least 15 years ago, and I was trying to remember a lot of details that weren't spoon fed to the audience (which I appreciated). My only critique was that the story moved at one particular pace through about 90% of the film, and at about the 2:10 mark I thought, "there's no way this is wrapping up in one film....there's going to be a cliffhanger and a sequel." Then it seemed to kick into fifth gear and wrap everything up at an oddly fast pace.
  7. NFL Ratings are Way Down

    The NFL is a massively hypocritical corporation that cares only for their bottom line, which is $$$. All the military ra-ra (at the cost to the DoD) is one example, here's another. The NFL touts October as breast cancer awareness month, and sells a bunch of merch with donations supposedly supporting breast cancer. Oh, it turns out just barely more than 10% goes to breast cancer research. The rest goes to the NFL and retailers. And what happens if a player whose mother died of breast cancer decides to do his own bling? The NFL slaps him with a fine of nearly six grand. You're not going to get people (including me) to stop watching football, but nobody should have any illusions that the NFL gives a shit about anybody other than the NFL.
  8. Pope wing commander removed from duty

    Or send them a link to this thread.
  9. USAFA: Being masculine is bad

    Ditto all. I was at Lakenheath a decade before Hacker, when Tonto was the DO of our sister squadron. Great guy, great fighter pilot. I also worked indirectly for Welsh when he was the USAFE/CC, and met him several times. I was a huge fan of him as well and described him in a similar manner.....before he became CSAF.
  10. Latest Movies

    If anybody was considering, stay away from the Beguiled. The previews made it out to be a 19th century Misery-esque horror movie. It turned to be a mind numbingly boring steaming pile of shit with no point and zero redeeming qualities. The movie ended with a cut to black and I literally yelled out loud, "Are you ing kidding me?!" Sent from my iPad using Baseops Network Forums
  11. Market Place Forum Rules

    The Market Place forum is intended as a Craigslist-esque site for buying and selling. Adhere to the following rules of use: - No advertisements. If you are interested in running paid advertisements through this site, click the "Contact Me" link at the bottom of any page to get in touch with an administrator. No promotion of outside business or revenue sources unless it is specifically approved by an administrator. Businesses will only be approved if they are sold by and generally for military members. You can either PM myself, or select the "Report post" link at the top of this post to contact us. - All sellers MUST be military members. - Include specifics of what you are selling in the title, along with the price (if applicable) - Consider this forum similar to Craigslist - it is free, conduct business with buyers/sellers at your own risk. - Once your item has sold, edit your post to include the word, "SOLD" in the title and moderators will remove the post.
  12. There's been a general trend here of guys asking "How can I improve my chances?" and getting responses like "This has been discussed, do a search." I'm the first one to pass out a UTFSF card, but the way the info is arranged sporadically throughout a number of threads and jammed in the middle of a bunch of stats, I admit it's tough to search for and find. I’ve tried to merge the posts into one jumbo thread, but it was so random and scattered it didn’t make much sense, so I’m going to start a new thread with stolen and linked info from the old threads (click on each subject for a link to a separate thread on that subject). This is intended primarily for pilot slot applicants, but feel free to add info on how to improve your chances for ROTC/OTS/USAFA. After you read Brabus' post on evaluating your chances for a pilot slot and before you ask how to improve your chances, read through this thread. This is NOT for posting stats and chances, it's for generic methods of improvement. Flying hours – Not necessary and a lot of hours may actually work against you (un-learning civilian flying to follow the Air Force way), but a small number of hours could be beneficial to give you a general feel for flying and concept of the principles. Additionally, it shows that you’re motivated enough to get out there and get some training yourself. GPA/degree: Your GPA is huge, the associated degree is not. A technical degree will help you get into ROTC or help you if you want to be a test pilot down the line, but a 4.0 English major does not weigh higher than an engineering 4.0 major. High school GPA does not matter. AFOQT scores: You have the option to re-take, but the second test will be your score. If you score worse the second time around, you take a hit. The only question I have is whether there is a cut-off at which you would recommend re-taking the test? Citizenship – Get it. You cannot commission into the military if you are not a US citizen. Fitness: Improve it. Your Physical Fitness Test score weighs into your PCSM score. Commander’s Ranking: This can be huge, not only for your OM, but in terms of what your commander may decide to help you out with. Extracurricular: This will help you for the ‘whole person’ concept, but where you’ll really make your money is in volunteering, primarily in Det activities. Also reference the commander’s ranking thread. Ethnic background – Doesn’t matter. Affirmative action won’t help you and prejudice won’t work against you. “If you can fly a jet, I dont care if youre purple-skinned or Klingon. There is no gender bias. There is no racial bias. There is SKILLS bias.” That's what I've got it, discussion is open for additional recommendations and questions.
  13. WTF? (**NSFW**)

    I love Adam Carolla's take on this:
  14. Protocol for Intercepts

    Your base are all belong to us
  15. Latest Movies

    Do not see The Mummy. I wasn't terribly impressed by the trailer, but I followed the wife to it skeptically. The first 20 minutes is military-centric and is so ridiculously implausible that it ruined the rest of the movie. F- , zero points, I want my money back. Sent from my iPad using Baseops Network Forums
  16. I wanted this to be professional, efficient, adult, cooperative. Not a lot to ask. Alas, your Mr. hatedont did not see it that way... so he won't be joining us for the rest of his life. Yes, that was a new account, and apparently created by the same person who created two others prior (which he stopped using after getting shit on). He has been put into permanent time out.
  17. SNAPs get what's coming to them. This would have been collateral damage.
  18. Three day weekends and holidays are probably your best bet, and plan on you doing most of the travelling. Meeting up in San Antonio isn't too bad of a drive for him, and San Antonio has an airport if you can fly. If you really want to stick together after UPT, start looking at AFSCs that will let you transfer to wherever he's stationed because an 8 hour drive is probably optimistic in the future.
  19. WTF? (**NSFW**)

    Well I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but if you insist... My personal experiences with safe spaces is limited since I haven't lived there in two decades, but my TV and internet still work, so I know that they exist at UC Berkeley, UC San Diego, UC Santa Cruz and many other locations. Schools that have historically been the poster children for free speech and expression now suppress free speech and expression if it there is potential that it could offend. Adam Carolla and Denis Prager have started a documentary after being cancelled at universities for just discussing the matter. Safe spaces didn't exist when I was growing up in California, but I saw plenty of examples of what is now becoming commonplace in terms of suppressing anything that the (leftist) norm disagrees with. Only hours after the Gulf War campaign was announced, I walked home through a massive march of "Peace Protesters" who were the absolute opposite of peaceful. My high school had a weekly free speech debate on various topics, and the two absolute outcasts were a Christian fundamentalist and a military brat who were routinely booed from the platform. One of my high school friends enlisted in the army after the Gulf War kicked off, and when I walked with him in public in his uniform, I saw him get heckled by random people on the street. The students at my college tried to shut down the ROTC program because they thought it bred baby killers. The list goes on, and while I'm know it's not indicative of everybody in California, it's absolutely a sample size.
  20. WTF? (**NSFW**)

    Having lived in California for my first 22 years and Texas for a total of nine (including the last six), I wholeheartedly disagree with this. If you're talking about environmentals and landscape, California wins unless you're into miserably hot and dusty yellow. Austin is a rare exception, but it's more like California because of the culture than the landscape. Now if you're talking about the people, Texas wins hands down unless you like hanging out with a bunch whiny little bitches who don't want you to infringe on their safe space.
  21. Holy shit if that's not the pot calling the kettle black.
  22. What's wrong with the Air Force?

    I'll have whatever you're drinking.