The_Vandall Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Just jumping into the conversation as I'm also a recent passed-over in my 1APZ board (but still waiting on the selective continuation result). I think the two pilots are still eligible for TERA, right? Though the Air Force doesn't want to "offer" TERA, they are still "authorized" by Congress for TERA through December 2018. Though I'm no lawyer, I am pretty good at research. Here's a link to Code 632 of Title 10: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/632 Take a look under paragraph (2) under section (a): "if he is eligible for retirement under any provision of law, be retired under that law on the date requested by him and approved by the Secretary concerned, which date shall be not later than the first day of the seventh calendar month beginning after the month in which the President approves the report of the board which considered him for the second time;" A person being separated passed the 15 year point is eligible for retirement under TERA. From what I've heard from another member, though the AF doesn't want to "offer" TERA, they cannot deny it to folks being denied continuation (if they are going to be separated after the 15 year point). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitzo Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 That makes no sense at all. But then again this is the Air Force. Bonus takers? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_Vezencuando Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 11 hours ago, Ram said: I found out. I'm am in-res IDE grad, so not a big surprise. (That's not endorsement from me of the use of school in res as a discriminator...I'm just stating fact.) Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums Congrats to you and those who made it! 5.4% was a better year for APZ's ... 'cept us folks in the field. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 2 hours ago, ThreeHoler said: . Exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I didn't think that commanders could ask for their people not to be continued. Is that a thing?Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Duck said: I didn't think that commanders could ask for their people not to be continued. Is that a thing? Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums Could be similar to commanders being required to allow enlisted to re-enlist. Giving local commanders more control/say over personnel issues is usually a good thing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 10 hours ago, ClearedHot said: Meanwhile....for the second year in a row Ops folks with P's and Super P's got hammered. All the talk from from the last two CSAF's about mission focus and "we need you"...again empty words. How many mixed messages can they send? Sadly, the AF deserves what it is about to get. Single data point... but I made it as an 11F with a Super P having never served above the wing level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ratner Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I didn't think that commanders could ask for their people not to be continued. Is that a thing?Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network ForumsThey put in a recommendation for continuation. It's in the regs posted to myPersSent from my Pixel using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) I wasn't personally invested in the results for 4 people. 2 APZ and 2 IPZ 3 made it. One IPZ did not make it Edited May 24, 2017 by bennynova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 See other posts to this effect...but the two guys I know were just given the wrong letter. Continued after all. Supposedly. When they finally get the "correct" letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 24 minutes ago, ThreeHoler said: See other posts to this effect...but the two guys I know were just given the wrong letter. Continued after all. Supposedly. When they finally get the "correct" letter. Makes sense. Some Wing DP needs to be more careful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steve C said: Single data point... but I made it as an 11F with a Super P having never served above the wing level. Same here. Ps were 50/50 at my base. I made the list with a Super P. So strange this system. The question of if continuation was offered to all pilots is what I want to know. Edit to add: 11M here. Edited May 24, 2017 by Homestar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitzo Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Okay let's clarify. What I know to be a super p is 1,2,3/xx p's or a stratified p in other words. Or is a super p a p with a def promote push. Because unless you are a shitbag you shouldn't expect anything less on your PRF Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogs-N-Guns Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 11M made it IPZ with a P from the AETC student MLR. ACSC by correspondence. Avoided staff assignment by getting my PHD in applied physics, currently teaching. I missing flying, but not interested in returning for a monthly 1/1/1 local followed by 50-60 hr weeks of meetings and PowerPoint.What is a super P?Sent from my SM-P900 using Baseops Network Forums mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitzo Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I only say that because being epically unqualified for promotion on both BTZ looks I had a DP push. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I always thought a super P was bottom line saying, "if I had one more DP, he'd have gotten it". Or, "my next DP if I had one" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, bennynova said: I always thought a super P was bottom line saying, "if I had one more DP, he'd have gotten it". Or, "my next DP if I had one" This. This is the classic definition of "super P". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, bennynova said: I always thought a super P was bottom line saying, "if I had one more DP, he'd have gotten it". Or, "my next DP if I had one" ^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 They put in a recommendation for continuation. It's in the regs posted to myPersSent from my Pixel using TapatalkThey can also initiate a process to deny continuation immediately after it's been offered. Not sure how often that's been exercised in the past.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac airlifter Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Skitzo said: I only say that because being epically unqualified for promotion on both BTZ looks I had a DP push. A "Definitly promote" in the push line, or a DP? I'm assuming you weren't selected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFans Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I'm chilling out in a NATO black hole, but I got a phone call saying I didn't O-5. No information on continuation offered or available when I asked. Am I supposed to get a letter offering or denying continuation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 34 minutes ago, FourFans130 said: I'm chilling out in a NATO black hole, but I got a phone call saying I didn't O-5. No information on continuation offered or available when I asked. Am I supposed to get a letter offering or denying continuation? Yes, you should get a letter, assuming this was your 1APZ board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFans Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, ihtfp06 said: Yes, you should get a letter, assuming this was your 1APZ board. IPZ. Guess I'll just wait a year. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 what is the timeline for seeing line numbers in vMPF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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