BQZip01 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Back in the news... Article ^^^ Well, if she didn't actually spray the intended victim, it wasn't assault and she should be let off of that charge and the prosecution admonished/berated/charged with prosecutorial misconduct. If that's the problem, she's got a case for a mistrial. All this wouldn't have happened if she'd just used a piddle pack instead of a diaper. Fighter pilots everywhere would be saying to themselves, "Now THAT'S a good use of government resources for a long car trip. Why not? I already use them for trips across the ocean." Meanwhile the heavies would be saying, "Good night! Just install a toilet in the damn thing!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravedigger Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 ^^^ Well, if she didn't actually spray the intended victim, it wasn't assault and she should be let off of that charge and the prosecution admonished/berated/charged with prosecutorial misconduct. If that's the problem, she's got a case for a mistrial. This is one of the most misunderstood offenses in our legal system. Assault requires only the threat of violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BQZip01 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 This is one of the most misunderstood offenses in our legal system. Assault requires only the threat of violence. What if she never threatened anything and just did it? Attempted assault would seem appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 What if she never threatened anything and just did it? Attempted assault would seem appropriate. Battery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Exactly, assault is the threat of violence, and battery is the actual execution of that threat (basically physical violence). The threat does not have to be stated, it can be implied. If someone is walking towards you with a baseball bat in a threatening manner, they do not have to state that they are going to hit you with it for it to be considered an assault. The mere fact that the threat was obvious is sufficient. Of course, you would have to prove that in court; but for the use of lethal force in countering a threat, it is one of the first things that should be mentioned ("I was in fear for my life")... Cheers! M2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoo Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Back in the news... Article Some chick from 1985 called, she wants her hair back. Sorry, I'm hungover - that "xxxx called, it wants its xxxx back" joke is crazy funny. How will the use of an insanity defense affect her military career? I smell a promotion...oh wait, she's in the Navy. Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Some chick from 1985 called, she wants her hair back. Dude! Foul! Chicks' hair in the 80s was a helluva lot cooler than that! Cheers! M2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Dude! Foul! Chicks' hair in the 80s was a helluva lot cooler than that! Cheers! M2 I don't think these are chicks M2.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkDerka Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Well played M2. HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smoke_Jaguar4 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Dude! Foul! Chicks' hair in the 80s was a helluva lot cooler than that! Cheers! M2 Three words: Tawny Kitaen, Whitesnake Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I don't think these are chicks M2.. Damn Butters, you're one sharp cookie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Three words: Tawny Kitaen, Whitesnake How did that one turn out for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smoke_Jaguar4 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 How did that one turn out for you? Yeah, TK and Kelly LeBrock. Both hot back in the day, both now basketcases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Yeah, TK and Kelly LeBrock. Both hot back in the day, both now basketcases I'd still hit it. You know... Just to say I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Yeah, TK and Kelly LeBrock. Both hot back in the day, both now basketcases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Holy fuckin' man-hands! Took me a couple minutes to get my eyes off the rack before I noticed that... along with the DSLs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I swear we talked about this, but I can not find it. Maybe it was deleted because making fun of male astronauts is not allowed... Well, anyway the crackpot is back. Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Well, she finally wised up... Ex-astronaut pleads guilty in attack on rival By MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press Writer ORLANDO, Fla. – A former astronaut who drove 1,000 miles from Houston to Orlando to mount a bizarre attack on a romantic rival pleaded guilty Tuesday to reduced charges and was sentenced to a year on probation. Lisa Nowak, a Navy captain, pleaded guilty to third-degree felony burglary and misdemeanor battery. She originally had been charged with two felonies — attempted kidnapping and burglary — along with misdemeanor battery. She could have faced up to life in prison under the more serious felony charges. Nowak confronted her romantic rival, Colleen Shipman, in the parking lot of Orlando International Airport in February 2007 after driving from Houston. Shipman had begun dating Nowak's love interest, former space shuttle pilot Bill Oefelein. Wearing a wig and trenchcoat, Nowak followed Shipman to the parking lot and tried to get into her car, then attacked her with pepper spray. Shipman was able to drive away. Police arrested Nowak a short time later in the parking lot near a trash can where she was seen getting rid of a bag. In Nowak's bag police found a steel mallet, a knife, a BB pistol, rubber tubing and several large garbage bags. "Almost three years later, I'm still reeling from her vicious attack," Shipman told Circuit Judge Marc L. Lubet after Nowak's plea, holding back tears. "I know in my heart when Lisa Nowak attacked me, she was going to kill me. "I believe I escaped a horrible death that night," said Shipman, a former Air Force captain who worked at Patrick Air Force Base near the Kennedy Space Center. Shipman described how she still fears for her life, suffers nightmares, migraines, high blood pressure and other medical problems and has bought a shotgun and has a concealed weapons permit. She said her Air Force career was ruined by medical problems stemming from the attack. She now lives in Alaska with Oefelein. "The world I knew before Lisa Nowak is unrecognizable," Shipman said. "Every stranger I see is a potential attacker." After being told by the judge to face Shipman, Nowak apologized for the pain she brought to Shipman's life. "I hope very much that we can all move forward from this with privacy and peace," Nowak said. Lubet ordered her to have no contact with Shipman or Oefelein and to write Shipman a letter of apology. The sentence included two days in jail but the judge waived it for time already served. He said the plea could adversely affect her career and retirement benefits with the Navy. "You brought this on yourself. I don't have any sympathy for you in that respect," Lubet told Nowak. The plea came after an appeals court ruled last year that diapers, latex gloves and other items found in Nowak's car could be used as evidence in a trial that had been scheduled for next month, but her six-hour police interview after her arrest could not. The court said investigators took advantage of the former astronaut, who had not slept for more than 24 hours, coercing her into giving information. Prosecutor Pam Davis had asked for jail time and at least five years of probation, dismissing claims from Nowak's defense attorney that Nowak had been "over charged" by police detectives because of her high profile. "This has nothing to do with Ms. Nowak being an astronaut. This is about what she did," Davis said. Nowak, 46, is a married mother of three. She flew on the space shuttle in 2006, but was dismissed from the astronaut corps after her arrest and has since been on active duty at a Navy base in Corpus Christi, Texas. Oefelein, 44, also was forced out of NASA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 FOX News Navy panel recommends ending military career of ex-astronaut Lisa Nowak over airport attack JACKSONVILLE, Fla. – The Navy should discharge former astronaut Lisa Nowak, who lost her NASA job over a bizarre airport attack on a romantic rival, according to a Navy panel that reviewed her case. The panel of three admirals made the recommendation Thursday after a daylong hearing at the Naval Air Station in Jacksonville. The recommendation now goes to the Naval Personnel Command. A final decision will be made by the Secretary of the Navy. In the meantime, Nowak will continue working on the staff of the chief of Naval Air Training in Corpus Christi, Tex. She flew on the space shuttle in 2006, but was dismissed from the astronaut corps after her arrest in 2007. There was no listed number for Nowak in Corpus Christi and Nowak's commanding officer in Texas didn't immediately return a call Friday. The panel recommended downgrading Nowak from captain to commander and giving her a discharge of "other than honorable." If the recommendation is accepted, the change in Nowak's rank means she will receive a pension at the rank of commander rather than captain. Additionally, only veterans who are discharged honorably can get benefits under the GI bill, said Stephen Strickland, a public affairs specialist at the Navy Region Southeast in Jacksonville. Nowak was sentenced to a year on probation in November after pleading guilty to third-degree felony burglary and misdemeanor battery. Nowak confronted her romantic rival, Colleen Shipman, in the parking lot of Orlando International Airport in February 2007 after driving from Houston. Shipman had begun dating Nowak's love interest, former space shuttle pilot Bill Oefelein. Wearing a wig and trenchcoat, Nowak followed Shipman to the parking lot and tried to get into her car, then attacked her with pepper spray. Shipman was able to drive away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Should be the last revival of this thread... Ex-astronaut Lisa Nowak forced out of Navy Capt. Lisa Nowak will retire with an "other than honorable" discharge and her pay grade will be knocked down one rank, Assistant Secretary of Navy Juan Garcia said in a statement. Nowak's conduct "fell well short" of what is expected of Navy officers and she "demonstrated a complete disregard for the well-being of a fellow service member," Garcia said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Wow, it only took the Navy four-and-a-half years to figure out that she was bat-shit crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Would have taken the AF a lot longer than that. And then they would have paid her to come back in 6-9 months later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeHavilland Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Wow, it only took the Navy four-and-a-half years to figure out that she was bat-shit crazy! But at least they figured her out and dumped her ass. This vs. Jill M and the story behind her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HercDude Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Should be the last revival of this thread... Not so fast my friend. I'm thinking either Clebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew, or a boxing match with Octomom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Not so fast my friend. I'm thinking either Clebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew, or a boxing match with Octomom. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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