June 4, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, ThreeHoler said: Until recently you were ineligible for a second bonus after taking one. (Yes, I know before 2001 there were 2nd bonuses to keep people in). Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app So now you can get a second bonus?
June 4, 20196 yr 43 minutes ago, MCO said: So now you can get a second bonus? Current offering is on MyPers, however, past performance does not indicate future performance. It’s always a gamble.
June 4, 20196 yr 15 hours ago, MCO said: So now you can get a second bonus? I signed a 2 year bonus in 2017. They offered me a second bonus this year. I decided to PCS one more time and signed a 3 year deal. I was planning on being a free agent, but that would be dumb if I don't take take the money. Edited June 4, 20196 yr by Shazaam
June 4, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Shazaam said: I signed a 2 year bonus in 2017. They offered me a second bonus this year. I decided to PCS one more time and signed a 3 year deal. I was planning on being a free agent, but that would be dumb if I don't take take the money. I feel like stringing people along 2-3 years at a time would be a better strategy than the current lump sum. Right now they are only targeting people who are willing to go all in. If I had the chance to play assignment dice between each bonus I would probably stick around a bit longer. Who knows. I find most people are very hesitant though to sign another 9 year commitment after having already felt battered from the 10 year one they just got out of.
June 4, 20196 yr 4 hours ago, FLEA said: I feel like stringing people along 2-3 years at a time would be a better strategy than the current lump sum. Right now they are only targeting people who are willing to go all in. If I had the chance to play assignment dice between each bonus I would probably stick around a bit longer. Who knows. I find most people are very hesitant though to sign another 9 year commitment after having already felt battered from the 10 year one they just got out of. Had a young captain ask me about signing a 9 year bonus. I told him I wouldn't sign a 9 year bonus because the needs, wants, and desires of your family may change. You don't want to be trapped. He probably signed up for 9 more years. Same guy who decided to pay for lap dances by using his GPC to get cash from the gentleman's club ATM. He thought the wife wouldn't find out. She found out because he can never go TDY. He had just gotten married! Edited June 4, 20196 yr by Shazaam
June 10, 20196 yr The AF should just lower the bonus commitment to 1-2 years. Then it would essentially be "Pro Pay" without having to call it that, since they are incapable of convincing Congress there's a problem. It would at least help the crew force think leadership is trying. Of course, that assumes Big AF actually gives a crap about trying to fix the problem, which we all know they don't. They've been studying the problem with little to no actual action for what...5 YEARS now? At this stage in my career, with eyes wide open about how much Big AF appreciates me, I'm essentially a mercenary. I still like flying for the AF though. If they would let that Voluntary Retired Return to Active Duty Program be bonus eligible, I'd sign up for four more years through that. Edited June 10, 20196 yr by Hunter Rose
June 11, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Hunter Rose said: Big AF actually gives a crap about trying to fix the problem, which we all know they don't. They've been studying the problem with little to no actual action for what...5 YEARS now? We all know it takes 15 years for the Air Force Indecision Cycle. Look at Light Attack Fighter. If we discuss the problem until it goes away we never have to solve it.
June 11, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, Hunter Rose said: The AF should just lower the bonus commitment to 1-2 years. Then it would essentially be "Pro Pay" without having to call it that, since they are incapable of convincing Congress there's a problem. It would at least help the crew force think leadership is trying. Of course, that assumes Big AF actually gives a crap about trying to fix the problem, which we all know they don't. They've been studying the problem with little to no actual action for what...5 YEARS now? At this stage in my career, with eyes wide open about how much Big AF appreciates me, I'm essentially a mercenary. I still like flying for the AF though. If they would let that Voluntary Retired Return to Active Duty Program be bonus eligible, I'd sign up for four more years through that. Didn't they do a one year bonus for a little while recently?
June 11, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, FLEA said: We all know it takes 15 years for the Air Force Indecision Cycle. Look at Light Attack Fighter. If we discuss the problem until it goes away we never have to solve it. That’s sorta like the telephone on my desk at work. If I wait long enough, it’ll just stop ringing.
June 12, 20196 yr On June 10, 2019 at 8:11 PM, Bigred said: That’s sorta like the telephone on my desk at work. If I wait long enough, it’ll just stop ringing. You're a functional at AFPC? Cool--what branch?
June 12, 20196 yr On 6/10/2019 at 7:41 PM, pawnman said: Didn't they do a one year bonus for a little while recently? I think that was in 2017. I signed up for a 2 year bonus that year. It felt good almost being a free agent this year.
June 13, 20196 yr Senate just finished markup of the FY-20 budget. Hopefully some nuggets of info makes it way out what was recommended for bonuses.
June 13, 20196 yr Senate just finished markup of the FY-20 budget. Hopefully some nuggets of info makes it way out what was recommended for bonuses. Based on what BGen Short said a few weeks ago when he visited, I would guess no changes. The other services aren’t in favor of any increase at this time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
June 13, 20196 yr Section 611 of the Senate version simply authorizes payment at the current rate. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-116s1790rs/pdf/BILLS-116s1790rs.pdf
June 13, 20196 yr I doubt they'll change anything. Afterall, they fixed the problem by opening the floodgates to UPT and trimming down the curriculum to reduce washouts.
June 13, 20196 yr 6 hours ago, Gazmo said: I doubt they'll change anything. Afterall, they fixed the problem by opening the floodgates to UPT and trimming down the curriculum to reduce washouts. Haven’t you heard, pilot shortage and retention issues are leveling off. https://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pages/2019/June 2019/Goldfein-Pilot-Shortage-Retention-Issues-Leveling-Off.aspx
June 13, 20196 yr Haven’t you heard, pilot shortage and retention issues are leveling off. https://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pages/2019/June 2019/Goldfein-Pilot-Shortage-Retention-Issues-Leveling-Off.aspxRrrrrrrriiiiight....
June 13, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Sprkt69 said: Haven’t you heard, pilot shortage and retention issues are leveling off. https://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pages/2019/June 2019/Goldfein-Pilot-Shortage-Retention-Issues-Leveling-Off.aspx Good to hear. More airline and contractor jobs for the rest of us.
June 13, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Sprkt69 said: Haven’t you heard, pilot shortage and retention issues are leveling off. https://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pages/2019/June 2019/Goldfein-Pilot-Shortage-Retention-Issues-Leveling-Off.aspx Is that because everyone eligible to bail already has?
June 14, 20196 yr UPT production numbers aren't where they publically stated they should be, but they've risen slightly. Don't think the former is the cause (read: luck), maybe just slightly retention influenced however UAV production #s on the other hand seem to have spiked upwards. To AFPC a pilot is a pilot is a UAV pilot is a # on a spreadsheet
June 14, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Swizzle said: UPT production numbers aren't where they publically stated they should be, but they've risen slightly. Don't think the former is the cause (read: luck), maybe just slightly retention influenced however UAV production #s on the other hand seem to have spiked upwards. To AFPC a pilot is a pilot is a UAV pilot is a # on a spreadsheet Ya, unfortunately the UAV pilot product hitting the line was rather sub par. Basic airmanship, decision making etc, their syllabus was already lacking, it was evident they were just pushing people to meet the numbers the last year or two. I left drones a bit ago, but sub par UPT product seems to be a complaint amongst the instructors in the manned plane b course I am currently in. Hats off to them, they been doing extra work and doing a lot of extra rides to get guys up to standard and passable for a checkride, but it backed up the course and strained resources. Lucky if I get 1 event every 10 days or so. Edited June 14, 20196 yr by viper154
June 14, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, pawnman said: Is that because everyone eligible to bail already has? People can’t leave if you never made them in the first place. Besides, my guess is lower level Bob’s are feeding upper level Bob’s some BS
August 27, 20196 yr Did anyone who signed the bonus in 2014 renegotiate in 2015 to 20 YAS? Did that cause a delay on any of your payments after the first 5? This will be my first payment of the "extension" I negotiated in 2015 and I can't shake the feeling that I'm about to get enrolled in the Jelly-of-the-month Club.
August 28, 20196 yr 10 hours ago, Homestar said: Did anyone who signed the bonus in 2014 renegotiate in 2015 to 20 YAS? Did that cause a delay on any of your payments after the first 5? This will be my first payment of the "extension" I negotiated in 2015 and I can't shake the feeling that I'm about to get enrolled in the Jelly-of-the-month Club. Same, and yes I got paid this year. Late June I received a CMS case email that AFPC was directing DFAS to continue $25K annual payments until 2022 and a couple weeks later I was paid.
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