August 1, 20241 yr Some of you spent your entire careers fighting terrorists. You sacrificed. Some sacrificed everything. Why? So the DoD could negotiate and strike a deal with a 9/11 mastermind? How many more ways are they going to spit in our faces?
August 1, 20241 yr The guy should have been hung by his dick while receiving death by bunga bunga the minute after all useful intel had been extracted. But here we are…ridiculous.
August 1, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, gearhog said: How many more ways are they going to spit in our faces? Who is 'they'?
August 1, 20241 yr IDGAF about him spending the rest of his life in jail versus executed. If he offered something up to get that deal, even better. Besides, getting killed is the easy way out. Enduring the rest of your life in prison as you slowly waste away is a better punishment, IMO.
August 1, 20241 yr Maybe, that depends on the prison. Russian prison, fuck yeah…US coddled prison with 1st world amenities, hell no.
August 1, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, Day Man said: Who is 'they'? Perhaps the same type of people who would make this “deal”? https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/americas/viktor-bout-profile-prisoner-swap-intl/index.html Or this one: https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/americas/viktor-bout-profile-prisoner-swap-intl/index.html
August 1, 20241 yr Death would probably be welcomed by him since he's already spent 21 years at GTMO and now will spend an eternity there. Him being confined for life is more torturous, which is a good thing considering what he did.
August 2, 20241 yr I can think of many times when I would have much rather been killed than had to endure pain for a very long time. Recent trip to in-laws is a great example.
August 3, 20241 yr On 8/1/2024 at 11:44 AM, Sua Sponte said: Death would probably be welcomed by him I don’t think so, since the plea deal was specifically to take the death penalty off the table. Which tells me he’s living decently enough to prefer his current lot over death.
August 3, 20241 yr Author Lloyd Austin just revoked the plea deal, making the death penalty possible again. I'll give him credit for that, but some of you have a record of immediately carrying the water for the current official position, no matter how wrong it may be. I would like to see more critical thinking. Edited August 3, 20241 yr by gearhog
August 3, 20241 yr 13 hours ago, gearhog said: Lloyd Austin just revoked the plea deal, making the death penalty possible again. Do you think he was actually unaware of the plea deal? I find it hard to believe SecDef was not briefed routinely about a case this big. I think he knew about and blessed the plea deal and his revocation is purely a reaction to public sentiment 94 days before an election. Edited August 3, 20241 yr by nunya
August 3, 20241 yr Do you think he was actually unaware of the plea deal? I find it hard to believe SecDef was not briefed routinely about a case this big.
August 3, 20241 yr I guess you see those as comparable... I don't think a case 23-years in the making is the same as announcing the death of an 87 year old a couple hours prior.
August 3, 20241 yr I guess you see those as comparable... I don't think a case 23-years in the making is the same as announcing the death of an 87 year old a couple hours prior.It’s called humor regarding Austin not knowing. You’d have to be an idiot to think it’s a direct comparison.
November 7, 20241 yr Author On 8/2/2024 at 8:34 PM, gearhog said: Lloyd Austin just revoked the plea deal, making the death penalty possible again. I'll give him credit for that, but some of you have a record of immediately carrying the water for the current official position, no matter how wrong it may be. I would like to see more critical thinking. LOLWTF. Add this dipshit to the resignation list. "Air Force Col. Matthew N. McCall overturned a decision by Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin reversing three pretrial agreements signed by a senior retired general he put in charge of military commissions at Guantanamo Bay, saying Austin did not have the power to do so and that he had acted too late. " https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/us/politics/gitmo-plea-agreement.html
November 8, 20241 yr Another case involving Alexander Kotey and El Shafee Elsheikh (2 of the 4 "Beatles" terrorist cell) got life in SuperMax because the Brits don't have the death penalty and that was the condition for cooperation. To me the solution is easy. Put them all in general population in USP Hazelton WV where Whitey Bulger lasted less than an hour. This time they'll get a real "jury of their peers" and the problem will take care of itself. Edited November 8, 20241 yr by fire4effect
November 8, 20241 yr I'm surprised he is still in Cuba and not in Florence Colo , from what I have read Gitmo is a country club compared to Super ATX.
November 11, 20241 yr On 11/8/2024 at 4:26 PM, Prosuper said: from what I have read Gitmo is a country club compared to Super ATX. Nope.
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