January 12, 20214 yr Hey everyone, I’m a current regional guy hired by a ANG unit. FC1 completed, approved and standing by for dates. Looks like I’ll be submitted to screen for the Civilian Path to Wings Program. Anyone have information on it? It looks very new and there’s nothing out there. Would it take place at any UPT base or just a select few? Anyone currently in it and knows the timeline from start to finish and what the syllabus consists of? Real excited to get started. Thanks in advance.
January 13, 20214 yr Too early to know. At my UPT base we don't even have cadre spun up yet for XPW and CPW. Randolph is more likely for you if you're starting soon. I think this is where all the magic is happening right now for XPW and CPW. Good luck! What is your civilian flying experience?
January 13, 20214 yr I just did a Qwant search on "USAF Civilian Path to Wings Program" and nothing came up that helped. Never heard of it. Can you provide any details?
January 14, 20214 yr I know they were doing it at Randolph and Vance is supposedly starting a class within a year. From my understanding you go straight to the T-1 and then get winged as an air force aviator? Seems like a neat concept especially for the guard/reserve guys that have no reason to learn how to fly formation in the T-6 prior to going to a heavy.
January 14, 20214 yr On a slightly related note, did anything ever come of the RFI for entirely contractor run UPT? Did COVID kill that idea for the time being?
January 15, 20214 yr 12 hours ago, Air_Space said: I know they were doing it at Randolph and Vance is supposedly starting a class within a year. From my understanding you go straight to the T-1 and then get winged as an air force aviator? Seems like a neat concept especially for the guard/reserve guys that have no reason to learn how to fly formation in the T-6 prior to going to a heavy. Do they fly form in T-1. For -130 follow on?
January 15, 20214 yr As far as I know, it is not for Guard yet. Does anyone has additional info on that end? Edited January 15, 20214 yr by Dynasty22
January 16, 20214 yr On 1/14/2021 at 6:34 PM, slc said: Do they fly form in T-1. For -130 follow on? As far as I know yes but the new UPT 2.5 syllabus has students go straight from T-6 to -130 so who knows. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the -1 only program isn't available for 130 people but who knows. Literally anything is possible right now it seems like
January 16, 20214 yr And it’s all answers to the wrong questions. 90% of these new accessions are still going to bail ASAP for greener pastures.
January 16, 20214 yr 6 hours ago, Air_Space said: As far as I know yes but the new UPT 2.5 syllabus has students go straight from T-6 to -130 so who knows. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the -1 only program isn't available for 130 people but who knows. Literally anything is possible right now it seems like 130 and U-28 folks are the only two platforms that can accept T-6 only right now. However at Vance the first 2.5 class will still track T-38/T-1. Also fun fact the last T-6 2.0 flight at Vance took place yesterday. To answer the OP, he'll go to Vance or Randolph.
January 28, 20214 yr AFRC has 30 people selected for the CPW, of those 30 four are sponsored and the rest unsponsored. All have to do a CPW validation at Randolph. Average scores: AFOQT Pilot 91 AFOQT CSO 70 AFOQT Academic 56 AFOQT Verbal 60 AFOQT Quant 51 PCSM 91 GPA 3.3 Mil flying hours 40 Civ Flying Hours 1,510 Next board is in three months
January 28, 20214 yr On 1/16/2021 at 4:43 PM, Air_Space said: As far as I know yes but the new UPT 2.5 syllabus has students go straight from T-6 to -130 so who knows. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the -1 only program isn't available for 130 people but who knows. Literally anything is possible right now it seems like Can anyone who was involved in this process speak to the reason a C-130 is included with a U-28 as not needing multi-engine time? I think it can be argued that a C-130 is probably the top multi-engine aircraft for difficulty flying in engine out operations. Between blown lift/flaps/ailerons and changing p-factor on top of asymmetric operations, a strong foundation in multi-engine operations seems fundamental to flying a C-130 far more than a C-5 or KC-135. It might even be argued that the T-1 formation low level is most analogous to a C-130J and C-17 than any other MAF aircraft in terms of mission management.
January 30, 20214 yr On 1/28/2021 at 5:34 AM, Fausto said: Can anyone who was involved in this process speak to the reason a C-130 is included with a U-28 as not needing multi-engine time? I think it can be argued that a C-130 is probably the top multi-engine aircraft for difficulty flying in engine out operations. Between blown lift/flaps/ailerons and changing p-factor on top of asymmetric operations, a strong foundation in multi-engine operations seems fundamental to flying a C-130 far more than a C-5 or KC-135. It might even be argued that the T-1 formation low level is most analogous to a C-130J and C-17 than any other MAF aircraft in terms of mission management. To that logic, you could almost argue we need our own T-44/TC-12 track. I’m sure a few dozen King Airs wouldn’t be that expensive to acquire and operate.
January 7, 20223 yr Hey just wanted to bump this topic and see if anybody has any more information. I am a guard hire just waiting on class dates for OTS and UPT and meet all requirements for CPW. I have been hired by a C130 unit so from what I have read I might be eligible. So far all I know is what is written here, what articles I can find online, and some "Oh I know a guy who knows a guy who is doing CPW" but other than that I can't find much else. The only official AF document I can find online is a publication pertaining to CPW in the reserve pipeline, nothing official for the ANG route.
January 9, 20223 yr On 1/27/2021 at 7:49 PM, Avery0829 said: AFRC has 30 people selected for the CPW, of those 30 four are sponsored and the rest unsponsored. All have to do a CPW validation at Randolph. Average scores: AFOQT Pilot 91 AFOQT CSO 70 AFOQT Academic 56 AFOQT Verbal 60 AFOQT Quant 51 PCSM 91 GPA 3.3 Mil flying hours 40 Civ Flying Hours 1,510 Next board is in three months Seems like some pretty low scores. Are we hiring dummies
January 9, 20223 yr On 1/7/2022 at 5:18 AM, rnav2gritz said: Hey just wanted to bump this topic and see if anybody has any more information. I am a guard hire just waiting on class dates for OTS and UPT and meet all requirements for CPW. I have been hired by a C130 unit so from what I have read I might be eligible. So far all I know is what is written here, what articles I can find online, and some "Oh I know a guy who knows a guy who is doing CPW" but other than that I can't find much else. The only official AF document I can find online is a publication pertaining to CPW in the reserve pipeline, nothing official for the ANG route. Did You ask your unit if they want that? Herc units will probably value 2-ship T-6 formation
January 28, 20223 yr Hello all, I wanted to check in and see if anyone is looking/participating in CPW process. I’ve been researching it and believe I can meet the minimum requirements for application in 1 year or so. I’ve a PPL and will be pursuing instrument, commercial, and multi engine ratings using Post 9/11 GI Bill.
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