The WOKE Thread (Merged from WTF?)

[Guest nsplayr]

I’m just pushing back with a purposefully overly-sunny demeanor against the over the top online doomerism. People literally think cities are burning to the ground daily 🙄

Yea SF has some issues and I do fault local leaders for it. I would vote for changes if I did live there.

I happen to have spent a whole week in SF actually, so longer than most of my other visits to various cities, and it was great as a tourist. I didn’t even get pooped on once 😅 Fully understand living somewhere is different than visiting.

Do you live there?

Edited June 5, 2023 by nsplayr

[Lord Ratner]

2 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

I’m just pushing back with a purposefully overly-sunny demeanor against the over the top online doomerism. People literally think cities are burning to the ground daily 🙄

Yea SF has some issues and I do fault local leaders for it. I would vote for changes if I did live there.

I happen to have spent a whole week in SF actually, so longer than most of my other visits to various cities, and it was great as a tourist. I didn’t even get pooped on once 😅 Fully understand living somewhere is different than visiting.

Do you live there?

Grew up right across the bridge. Spent my childhood all over SF, and right after college. Not one single person I know who actually lives in the area has your view. It is definitional of tourism politics. It's right up there with all the Americans who tout the enlightened glory of Europe, because they read about it in a book and took a vacation to Paris once.

 

Since I know precisely what San Francisco looks like right now, your depiction is enough for me to know that your observations of any other American city is going to be equally ignorant. You are simply incapable of seeing what you don't want to believe. At least you're in good company.

[Guest nsplayr]

🤷‍♂️ ok man fair enough if your a native, I don’t even necessarily disagree about SF re: people who live there.

Lots of problems are worse there and local policies (housing shortages, refusal to enforce the law) that are the root cause.

But the overall picture that all cities are hell holes is wrong.

Lets talk Nashville since that’s what I know best. It’s great here, never been better IMHO. We need more housing but that’s not a unique problem. Come visit sometime, it’s very nice.

Edited June 5, 2023 by nsplayr

[BashiChuni]

you keep talking about nashville....bro...like i said tennessee isn't the bastion for liberal thought/politics.

the places where the democratic party is ENTRENCHED are not doing well. it's not open for debate. it's amazing you can support obviously destructive social policies. also housing shortages and refusing to enforce the law are hallmarks of democratic socialist policies so thanks for proving my point.

[BashiChuni]

21 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

 

Yea SF has some issues and I do fault local leaders for it. I would vote for changes if I did live there.

 

hmmmmmm i WONDER WHAT IDEOLOGY THOSE LOCAL LEADERS HAVE?!

god damn you just made my point. thanks nav!

[Lord Ratner]

21 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

🤷‍♂️ ok man fair enough if your a native, I don’t even necessarily disagree about SF re: people who live there.

Lots of problems are worse there and local policies (housing shortages, refusal to enforce the law) that are the root cause.

But the overall picture that all cities are hell holes is wrong.

Lets talk Nashville since that’s what I know best. It’s great here, never been better IMHO. We need more housing but that’s not a unique problem. Come visit sometime, it’s very nice.

Nashville is not remotely like SF, Portland, Seattle, NYC, or Chicago, in politics, population, or the crime and homelessness (drug use) wave. It's a nice town. 

 

 

 

Liberal cities in conservative states have had a much harder time enacting the policies that have led to the conditions in the big cities. That's lucky for them. Austin is another good example. Every time the local government gets stupid, the state legislature steps in and takes away their toys. That doesn't comport well with the idea of localized government, but unfortunately we've seen that these issues manifest long after the offending ideologues have skittered away, and the damage takes years, or maybe generations, to fix. 

 

 

 

Dallas is another funny one. Usually the surrounding suburban areas funnel money into the city to fund all the absurd spending cities pride themselves on, but here they structured it so the money stays in the suburbs to be spent on schools and whatever else the residents want. The local newspaper is always crying about how little money Dallas gets for things like subways and buses and other downtown ornaments. The rest of us are quite happy to keep the city purse depleted.

[Guest nsplayr]

So the Dems in different cities have different policies? Especially over time? Wow, no shit. Is it the same for Republicans? /sarcasm

It’s almost like you can’t paint every city as a declining shithole with a broad brush. Most cities are thriving and are drivers of the growing national economy!

I don’t even know what you’re asking or arguing anymore @BashiChuni. If you want to just be mad at me, ok.

Edited June 5, 2023 by nsplayr

[BashiChuni]

are you really this dense? point to me republican cities that are absolute shit holes.

i can show you numerous democratic ones.

wanna connect those dots for me?

jfc dude.

you literally admitted you don't support the local SFO policies. a city run 100% by democrats. but then you argue you're happy with democrat policies and will continue voting for them. you make zero sense.

[Guest nsplayr]

27 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

are you really this dense? point to me republican cities that are absolute shit holes.

i can show you numerous democratic ones.

wanna connect those dots for me?

jfc dude.

you literally admitted you don't support the local SFO policies. a city run 100% by democrats. but then you argue you're happy with democrat policies and will continue voting for them. you make zero sense.

No US city is an absolute shithole, you should know this if you have ever deployed.

Which city is a “Republican city” that you’d like to use? The largest one with a Republican mayor at least used to be Jacksonville, FL, but a Dem was just elected there. That doesn’t account for city councils, etc.

YMMV on how a city is governed also depending on the state, as was pointed out, and I don’t disagree that long-term one party rule often leads to sclerotic institutions. There’s often improved results when elections are competitive and there are cross-pressures between federal, state and local levels. Not always, not everywhere, but generally.

There is no GOP New York, LA, Chicago, etc. to compare right now. Why is that? Some of these cities had GOP mayors that I remember, why are republicans no longer competitive in big cities?

And Eric Adams, Karen Bass, and Brandon Johnson are also different types of Dems and from obviously different places and facing different local issues. Is one of them doing a better job than the others in your opinion?

Edited June 5, 2023 by nsplayr

[BashiChuni]

you're unwilling to engage in a logical debate and blinded by your ideology.

jacksonville?! lol. ok dude.

continue to evade the obvious.

[Guest nsplayr]

I don’t know what you’re asking or wanting here. There are no comparable large cities run by republicans right now, that was my point in mentioning Jacksonville. Why is that do you think?

I’m starting to think it’s time to part ways on this convo, good luck.

[RASH]

I’m starting to think it’s time to part ways on this convo, good luck.

“BAILOUT BAILOUT BAILOUT”


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[lloyd christmas]

4 hours ago, nsplayr said:

No US city is an absolute shithole, you should know this if you have ever deployed.

We don’t live in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, etc, 

Raise your standards.  

Edited June 5, 2023 by lloyd christmas

[BashiChuni]

4 hours ago, nsplayr said:

I don’t know what you’re asking or wanting here. There are no comparable large cities run by republicans right now, that was my point in mentioning Jacksonville. Why is that do you think?

I’m starting to think it’s time to part ways on this convo, good luck.

democratic corruption with the mob and unions. easy answer. NEXT!

[FourFans]

5 hours ago, nsplayr said:

No US city is an absolute shithole

Clearly you've not spent time in Detroit.

Edited June 5, 2023 by FourFans

[BashiChuni]

1 minute ago, FourFans said:

Clearly you've not spent time in Detroit.

bro he lives in nashville he LOVES it! every other city has got to be just like nashville what are you even talking about bigot?! /s

[VMFA187]

On 6/5/2023 at 9:55 AM, nsplayr said:

No US city is an absolute shithole, you should know this if you have ever deployed.

 

So is no one in the US poor because we are comparing ourselves to the world's population now?

[Vito]

Nsplayer,

 You are delusional if you think Memphis is a “fun city” Also you’re more than delusional if you can’t understand all these shithole cities are entirely run and ruined by Democrat policies and democrat administrations. 
Watch this video, it happened a few weeks ago in Memphis.

BTW I only knew 2 pilots in 28 years who were Democrats, now I know 3. 
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1661436370173263873?s=20

Edited June 6, 2023 by Vito

[Guest nsplayr]

3 hours ago, Vito said:

You are delusional if you think Memphis is a “fun city” Also you’re more than delusional if you can’t understand all these shithole cities are entirely run and ruined by Democrat policies and democrat administrations. 
Watch this video, it happened a few weeks ago in Memphis.

Man sure a lot of Republicans who seem to hate America these days /sarcasm…only sort of.

Like is Memphis the Garden of Eden or  even in my top 69 places I’d want to live in the world? No. Is it a “shithole city?” Also no. Again, I don’t live there, but any one of you is perfectly able to visit Memphis, have a good time, etc. I know several FedEx folks who live on the close suburbs and they don’t seem to be having a terrible time in life.

I’m still waiting if anyone wants to offer up an rationale of why there aren’t any well-run large cities governed by Republicans that the “Dem hellholes” can look up to? Why are Republicans so uncompetitive in America’s largest population centers, especially at the local level? NYC used to have Republican mayors not that long ago, why can’t y’all win anymore? Granted the current mayor Eric Adams is kind of a Republican lol 😅

It’s just funny man, I come on here saying, “American cities aren’t shitholes that are literally burning to the ground” and am called delusional, naive, etc. AND I also get tasked to defend every dumbass local political decision ever made in dozens of places where I’ve never been in charge for a single day. 🤷‍♂️ Ok.

My point is y’all’s pessimism is overblown and America is a great country with some fantastic cities (and medium/small towns, and rural areas!) and if you are terminally pessimistic and scared and angry all the time I’m sorry you are going through your one relatively short, precious life that way.

I fully acknowledge that I can be irrationally optimistic in life, but my god, better that than the opposite!

3 hours ago, Vito said:

BTW I only knew 2 pilots in 28 years who were Democrats, now I know 3.

Congrats on coming out of your bubble! I know double than number just in my current squadron alone, and this is a ANG squadron in the south, not exactly a bastion of liberals.

I also 100% guarantee you’ve known more, there are just a lot of people who don’t wanna bring up liberal political views in an environment like a flying squadron that’s typically heavily right wing, and that’s ok. When the country is relatively 50/50, surely you have to recognize that many of the people you have worked with, seen in daily life, etc. have different political beliefs than you.

Edited June 6, 2023 by nsplayr

[Sim]

Why did evil nazi republicans did this? 🙄

[Sim]

 

One more republican run city!  If only they elected someone other than red. 

[Biff_T]

We need to build a tent city and bus (boat, airdrop, ropes lol) all of the zombies to it.   Maybe on an island, like Alcatraz.   What is the point of living if that is your life?    Shitting, pissing and drugs fuck that shit.  

[slc]

 

[Biff_T]

31 minutes ago, slc said:

 

[slc]

Awesome.  Been looking for a Snake Plissken starter kit