UPT Next

[Clark Griswold]

9 minutes ago, Day Man said:

https://www.borsight.com/news

Updated, cache thing, refreshed and their site had these links, 

Day Man 1 Clark 0 

https://thedefensepost.com/2025/06/18/us-texan-aircraft-avionics/

https://www.govconwire.com/article/borsight-t6a-avionics-replacement-usaf-military-trainer
 

Edited Wednesday at 03:28 AM by Clark Griswold

[pbar]

20 hours ago, Arkbird said:

This feels like another T-1 moment where by the time they update the avionics on the T-6, they're going to send them to the boneyard. They need to just start buying PC-21s and call it a day.

Well, it does run through 2034...

[Arkbird]

https://www.aerocontact.com/public/img/aviaexpo/produits/catalogues/297/Pilatus-Aircraft-Ltd-PC-21-Brochure.pdf

Looking at this PDF the PC-21 probably has all the avionics upgrades Borsight is going to be upgrading the T-6 to. I spot large MFDs, HUD, a mission computer, and probably a GPS that isn't from the early/mid 90s. Pilatus website even has some airframes with pylons for simulated weapons. Sounds like something the Air Force could use as a front line trainer and to bridge the gap for the fighter/bomber bros before T-38s/T-7s. Seems like a no brainer to me which is probably why the Air Force isn't going this direction.

[Clark Griswold]

PC-21 would be great

I could post again this plane or that one, this many hours in this one then this one but really it’s all about getting the institution of the AF to admit that the effort to privatize too much of UPT, to cut from UPT and to radically change UPT is the problem. Not the fact and inherent costs of owning training aircraft(s) at dedicated training bases.

I don’t know how you get a champion(s) with equivalent authority to those who wish to cut everything but the upcoming T-7 but if ever a training mafia needs to be formed ala the fighter mafia it is now.


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[Clark Griswold]

Just curious but in all these machinations on UPT NEXT, FUPT, etc… has the Air Force Safety Center been asked or done an analysis on the effectiveness/impact of curtailing/changing pilot training?


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[Swizzle]

1 hour ago, Clark Griswold said:

Just curious but in all these machinations on UPT NEXT, FUPT, etc… has the Air Force Safety Center been asked or done an analysis on the effectiveness/impact of curtailing/changing pilot training?


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Safety is a Commander's program. Commanders ordered and approved the changes, what do you think?

[Clark Griswold]

Safety is a Commander's program. Commanders ordered and approved the changes, what do you think?

Yeah, good point
Just thinking there was a way to throw a flag on the field


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