It turns out when LM, Raytheon, and NG put their heads together they're able to combine their incompetence and continue to produce underperforming products, behind timeline and over budget. Maybe that's the business model..

It’s not incompetence on industry’s part, it’s the plan to generate and sustain maximum profit. The incompetence is the gov’s speciality.

I don't doubt the maximizing profit part. When some of these tests fail after 10 years of development is it on purpose or incompetence? I guess it could sometimes be honest failures..

It sounds like you don’t know how the SEEK EAGLE process works in the USAF.

I'm familiar with the process. Not sure how that applies. I'm not talking about failing a carriage test. I'm talking about kit not working as advertised, within budget, and before it becomes outdated.

Yeah I suppose it could be incompetent leadership, but much of the time it feels more purposeful - the classic “milking” the contract. The engineers are not stupid people, and most of my experience has been positive with them (e.g. they care and really try to make things work). So the fault lies with management/leadership…or rather, they seem to view all of this as a feature and not a bug.

10 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

Oh boy, just wait until the anti-Isreal mass media gets ahold of this patch lol.

On 6/4/2026 at 5:30 AM, brabus said:

Yeah I suppose it could be incompetent leadership, but much of the time it feels more purposeful - the classic “milking” the contract. The engineers are not stupid people, and most of my experience has been positive with them (e.g. they care and really try to make things work). So the fault lies with management/leadership…or rather, they seem to view all of this as a feature and not a bug.

It's always the management causing the issues. I've worked with engineers from all the main contractors. Some got more of the 'tism than I care to interact with, but they're working hard for the nation.

It's always the damn managers, and execs, that delay, ask for more money, etc. Also, some gov civs fucking hate contractors even if they're kicking ass, solving problems, and creating/improving capes. That was a new one for me in my brief time in DoD contracting.

7 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

It's always the management causing the issues. I've worked with engineers from all the main contractors. Some got more of the 'tism than I care to interact with, but they're working hard for the nation.

It's always the damn managers, and execs, that delay, ask for more money, etc. Also, some gov civs fucking hate contractors even if they're kicking ass, solving problems, and creating/improving capes. That was a new one for me in my brief time in DoD contracting.

As a prime contractor, turned DoD Civ, turned prime contractor the federal civilians who hate contractors are the ones who would never get hired by one since they’re worthless. Those are the ones DOGE should’ve rid from the civil service.

I'm sure this is all part of the long game plan, but if its not.....would hate to be in the meetings with him right now.

Drone boat rescued two US aviators after their Army helicopter went down near the Strait of Hormuz - Anchorage Daily News

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Part of the brave new world. I would think the USCG would be heavily into using these as well.

2 hours ago, fire4effect said:

Drone boat rescued two US aviators after their Army helicopter went down near the Strait of Hormuz - Anchorage Daily News

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Part of the brave new world. I would think the USCG would be heavily into using these as well.

Just following Ukraine's lead...They used successfully used an automated robot over a month ago to recover a trapped and wounded soldier. The robot survived two mine strikes and safely brought the soldier home.

2 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Just following Ukraine's lead...They used successfully used an automated robot over a month ago to recover a trapped and wounded soldier. The robot survived two mine strikes and safely brought the soldier home.

Saw that video. Wild to see that technology evolve so quickly. Good to see efforts towards non lethal employment as well

Warfronts had a video on YT that was going over the ongoing disfunction with their campaign. I knew there was grifting and theft, but the video had receipts I hadn't heard before.

As always, grunts paying the price.

On board the 1st electric plane

Not directly related to the current conflict but I can see these especially the EVTOL version eventually finding a place on the battlefield. Greatly reduced noise signature. All about how far we can push state of the art for the battery power/energy density now.

On 5/20/2026 at 2:04 PM, Pooter said:

We’re now on our 3rd or maybe 4th iteration of: threaten total obliteration->back off the threat->promise a super stupendous deal is right around the corner.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-says-iran-has-taken-too-long-negotiate-will-pay-price-2026-06-10/

Weeeeee another trip on the merry go round

Kharg Island is back on the menu boys!

Edited yesterday at 01:25 PM1 day by Sua Sponte

Way to go there, Mr Step On Your Own Dick (oh wait, it was bitten off by a minor trafficked by your buddy Epstein) by telling the world/enemy what you're going to do. Tards. Why is our government full of full blown tards. I have never seen an admin full of so many tards. Did someone raid the worlds biggest tart-fest? Sure, look back in history and you'll find a tard or so in every admin. But this one is chock full of tards.

If Kharg was a goal, why not plan, prep, take in secret. A way better headline would have been, "Yesterday the US Military took full control or Kharg Island." And everyone would be, wha...? Wow... And Iran would be like, wha..? Wow... We're fucked...

At a certain point there’s not much left to say, the clown show headlines speak for themselves. Hard to tell.. are we getting off the merry go round or just speeding it up?

Thoughts on the Kharg Island attack being a negotiating tactic since it was announced we were sending army troops over months ago?

34 minutes ago, Boomer6 said:

Thoughts on the Kharg Island attack being a negotiating tactic since it was announced we were sending army troops over months ago?

Not an unreasonable idea and probably the only reason why you would announce it publicly before you did it. Problem is when you’ve threatened fire and brimstone 68 times already and not followed through, it isn’t convincing on the 69th time.

If it was feasible to take and hold Kharg island without big losses or at the very least putting our marines in a super compromised position, we would’ve done it already. Iran knows that and after two months of bluffs and bluster I think they see it as an empty threat. Trump is now saying the war is over, as of like an hour ago, which Iran still has not confirmed. So you guys tell me which side wants out more…

And if we believe Trump that there is a deal super close (I don’t) let’s not forget about the intransigent 3rd party here who can just light up Lebanon again and fuck the whole thing away

Edited 14 hours ago14 hr by Pooter

I certainly wouldn't take Kharg Islang given it would leave our troops in a horribly exposed position. However, I would emphasize to Iran that if we feel we are being forced to take a deal we don't like Kharg and anything else related to oil transport or refining in Iran will be made a smoking pile of wreckage. On that note even when they try to rebuild, we'll keep hitting it so good luck with that. It doesn't take a lot to destroy refining capacity. Back to one of my earlier comments Israel is the perfect proxy as they are very capable, really don't care about US politics and give us all kinds of plausible deniabilty.

Iranians are the masters of bad negotiating....delay delay delay then lie.

Trump has a blind spot with the art of the deal and does not understand how good they are at this game.

Beyond the lunatics in the IRGC if you want to understand some of the motivations of the Iranian people I highly recommend this book the "Persian Puzzle"...it was very eye opening. A group of people that have been conquered as a way of life.