Fucking clown show

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5612407-comeys-challenge-trump-prosecution/amp/

12 hours ago, GrndPndr said:

Anyone here planning on opting-in:

VIRAL: Democrat politicians tell troops to mutiny against...

It's mutiny on the Bounty, me hearties!

I have never seen such an absolutely despicable and disgraceful posturing from any government official. Mark Kelly has been a disappointment for a long time, and this has put him squarely in the category of irredeemable.

21 hours ago, ViperMan said:

I have never seen such an absolutely despicable and disgraceful posturing from any government official. Mark Kelly has been a disappointment for a long time, and this has put him squarely in the category of irredeemable.

Sure. We see/hear it plenty. They learned it from Trump himself. I think he's calling for executions of those Dems. See, despicable posturing ... or something. *

* I do not condone either actions, just playing ref and throwing a flag on both plays.

I think Trump confused sedition and treason (and the max punishment for each). Regardless, another example of not thinking it through before opening one’s mouth.

Both sides are cherry picking.

My War College Classmate, now retired Col Andrew Milburn wrote his thesis on the subject: BreakIng Ranks Dissent and the Military Professional - The paper was later published in JFQ where Pultizer Prize winning author Tom Ricks (who is a complete douche by the way), picked up on it and wrote a scathing article bashing Milburn. It was obvious Ricks never read the paper as Andy simply laid out a line of thinking around unlawful orders. Bottomline, we all swore an oath to the Constitution, not the President and we should act accordingly.

I have only heard reporting on Trump's comments which are obviously Fing stupid but I did hear one report say the left-leaning networks have edited his comment and left out the phrase "if convicted." Obviously that qualifier slightly lowers the stupidity factor, likely not enough to matter.

Bottomline, we have free speech in this country (despite the wishes of some with the Ministry of Truth), and Trump should shut his big mac eating, diet coke swizzling pie hole.

4 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Both sides are cherry picking.

My War College Classmate, now retired Col Andrew Milburn wrote his thesis on the subject: BreakIng Ranks Dissent and the Military Professional - The paper was later published in JFQ where Pultizer Prize winning author Tom Ricks (who is a complete douche by the way), picked up on it and wrote a scathing article bashing Milburn. It was obvious Ricks never read the paper as Andy simply laid out a line of thinking around unlawful orders. Bottomline, we all swore an oath to the Constitution, not the President and we should act accordingly.

I have only heard reporting on Trump's comments which are obviously Fing stupid but I did hear one report say the left-leaning networks have edited his comment and left out the phrase "if convicted." Obviously that qualifier slightly lowers the stupidity factor, likely not enough to matter.

Bottomline, we have free speech in this country (despite the wishes of some with the Ministry of Truth), and Trump should shut his big mac eating, diet coke swizzling pie hole.

You can check the truth social posts. The "death" one doesn't have anything about a trail or conviction. There's a tweet 16 posts/retweets before that one where he says they should be locked up. Fuck this dude needs to touch grass.

Thanks for the article, gonna read that one. It's really one of my favorite areas of thought.

I just watched a video on YouTube about something like this in Kosovo. Gen Clark ordered a British force to take the airport by force from the Russians. The Brits obviously said fuck off and waited until the Russians ran out of food (because of course they did) and then got 1/2 the airport.

For a little view into my local small political world - all 3 of our D candidates won city council (non-partisan race, so I'm not counting them as "wins"), the No Kings protests had large turnouts throughout the state, and I have more D's interested in running than the last few years. Utah did not slide right with the rest of the country, and some precincts (like mine) were overwhelmingly Harris/D voters. We got fairer maps, though the leg is doing everything they can to restrict ballot initiatives while they started their own initiative to repeal the fair maps initiative.

EDIT - Fantastic article, thanks again for sharing

Edited 10 hours ago10 hr by 17D_guy

Marge Two Names is resigning from Congress.

she was one of the most radical MAGA supporters...wonder what swayed her

29 minutes ago, Day Man said:

she was one of the most radical MAGA supporters...wonder what swayed her

She probably wasn't going to be re-elected after splitting from Trump. She's probably going to run for GA governor.

30 minutes ago, Sua Sponte said:

She probably wasn't going to be re-elected after splitting from Trump. She's probably going to run for GA governor.

I mean what finally swayed her away from supporting him?

11 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

You can check the truth social posts. The "death" one doesn't have anything about a trail or conviction. There's a tweet 16 posts/retweets before that one where he says they should be locked up. this dude needs to touch grass.

Thanks for the article, gonna read that one. It's really one of my favorite areas of thought.

I just watched a video on YouTube about something like this in Kosovo. Gen Clark ordered a British force to take the airport by force from the Russians. The Brits obviously said off and waited until the Russians ran out of food (because of course they did) and then got 1/2 the airport.

For a little view into my local small political world - all 3 of our D candidates won city council (non-partisan race, so I'm not counting them as "wins"), the No Kings protests had large turnouts throughout the state, and I have more D's interested in running than the last few years. Utah did not slide right with the rest of the country, and some precincts (like mine) were overwhelmingly Harris/D voters. We got fairer maps, though the leg is doing everything they can to restrict ballot initiatives while they started their own initiative to repeal the fair maps initiative.

EDIT - Fantastic article, thanks again for sharing

17D, "Utah did not slide right with the rest of the country...", dumping Romney was a move to the right...and the right move.