brickhistory Posted June 7 Posted June 7 1 hour ago, Banzai said: Just the president of the US directly threatening someone over free speech. Somehow this is both constitutional AND moral. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-elon-musk-consequences-funds-democratic-candidates-rcna211605 Cool. Now do Covid circa 2021 Or speaking at school board meetings, same time frame. And numerous other free speech actions, not twitter spats, but government actions taken to thwart free speech. I'll take Trump blustering and https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ice-arrests-top-100000-under-trump-as-officials-expand-detention-efforts/ar-AA1GayKQ?ocid=BingNewsSerp for $200, please... Not high enough numbers, but a start combined with record low border crossings. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/25/trump-southern-border-crackdown-impact/83733347007/ And I'll put another $200 on that high horse you ride to win/place/show. 4
Lawman Posted June 7 Posted June 7 Because it's a stupid parade. Like we need to spend $$$ on that shit. But I guess little Taco needs an ego stroke so he can look mighty like Un. Tards.It was planned in and programmed before he was elected president.The Army was always going to celebrate its 250th birthday. Clutch pearls harder and get outraged the next flyover you see while you’re at it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 5
Boomer6 Posted June 8 Posted June 8 I get the facts about psi etc. on a tank driving straight down a road, but what about when they turn and do tank things. How's the impact of that on asphalt/concrete. Also, to prevent any triggering, I'm just curious.
Lawman Posted June 8 Posted June 8 I get the facts about psi etc. on a tank driving straight down a road, but what about when they turn and do tank things. How's the impact of that on asphalt/concrete. Also, to prevent any triggering, I'm just curious.The action of an in place turn or a single track turn can create a kind of twisting friction which would be concerning in certain kinds of loose terrain. There’s a video out there somewhere of an M88 getting stuck in a cobblestoned area of some German village and just doing everything wrong to get out, then tearing chunks of cobblestone up, only to get them lodged into the spaces between the road wheels and the track and break the track. Done properly it’s actually a way to have track vehicle dig it’s self a partial hull down position in certain types of ground, but asphalt isn’t gonna do that. It’s not going to remove the paint, and in fact the most concerning thing we have when we drive on a road is idiots curbing the raised pavement because they weren’t paying attention. A truck would do the same damage a tank would do in that case.You can watch along our 7 miles of motor pools heavy tracked vehicles cross streets to go from the motor pool to the tank trail. They don’t have any visible damage along any of those roads.Seriously there are dozens of very real economic cost analysis arguments, but the ones screaming about tanks are just ignoring those for sensationalist BS, and the media talking heads are part of it. The whole “special rubber pads” are standard on all our tracked vehicles, and we haven’t had an all metal track since my dad was in the military. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1
disgruntledemployee Posted June 8 Author Posted June 8 3 hours ago, Lawman said: It was planned in and programmed before he was elected president. The Army was always going to celebrate its 250th birthday. Clutch pearls harder and get outraged the next flyover you see while you’re at it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Still retarded, just like it was in field training/zoo/etc. Show me the real world training aspect that makes this worth it, Signed, Killjoy
Lawman Posted June 8 Posted June 8 Still retarded, just like it was in field training/zoo/etc. Show me the real world training aspect that makes this worth it, Signed, KilljoyEvery unit that did this is a T in “perform expeditionary operations,” on the METL….We actually executed work at transcom and locally doing rail head ops….You understand we are demonstrating the ability to move our heaviest ground forces and have them execute on the other end of that move right? 1-17 Cav is one of the flyover units, and that is literally their last hurrah before casing the colors and disbanding, so what did that really cost us?Look if I can March in the Dothan peanut festival parade, we can damn sure put some effort into celebrating the Army’s 250s birthday. Let’s compare the price tag on Tdy and equipment movement of this to say, the Dayton Air Show. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2
Banzai Posted June 8 Posted June 8 https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/ Currently threatening to deploy active duty marines to California. Thanks geniuses.
tac airlifter Posted June 8 Posted June 8 27 minutes ago, Banzai said: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/ Currently threatening to deploy active duty marines to California. Thanks geniuses. We should. We’ve been invaded. 1 1 8
arg Posted June 8 Posted June 8 2 hours ago, Banzai said: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/ Currently threatening to deploy active duty marines to California. Thanks geniuses. Wonder if they'll be armed.
McJay Pilot Posted June 9 Posted June 9 47 minutes ago, kaputt said: Oh look, another violent riot from the left. Surely you mean “mostly peaceful protest” my good sir. 1 2
chase Posted June 9 Posted June 9 17 hours ago, tac airlifter said: We should. We’ve been invaded. At this point, I actually think that would deescalate things. The dems have defunded the police to the point that they’re basically untrained monkeys I mean, how many reporters have they shot by now? Four? Wild... https://www.9news.com.au/world/los-angeles-protests-national-guard-troops-arrive-in-la-on-donald-trumps-orders-to-quell-immigration-protests/0e451581-493c-46fc-b426-ee220f6a29fc?ocid=Social-9News
Banzai Posted June 9 Posted June 9 1 hour ago, chase said: At this point, I actually think that would deescalate things. The dems have defunded the police to the point that they’re basically untrained monkeys I mean, how many reporters have they shot by now? Four? Wild... https://www.9news.com.au/world/los-angeles-protests-national-guard-troops-arrive-in-la-on-donald-trumps-orders-to-quell-immigration-protests/0e451581-493c-46fc-b426-ee220f6a29fc?ocid=Social-9News Wrong, get better, be smarter, don’t be a sheep.
Banzai Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) For the record, I have absolutely no issue with arresting and prosecuting everyone who is waving Mexican flags while setting cars on fire. F those people. I know that’s going to be the response here - attack a straw man. I have significant issue with using an event that should be handled with law enforcement and/or natl guard as a way to overreach executive power unconstitutionally, and I am honestly appalled at this forum’s complacency about it. Edited June 9 by Banzai 1 1
brickhistory Posted June 9 Posted June 9 1 hour ago, Banzai said: Ever heard of Posse Comitatus, or does the implicit racism on this forum simply enable you all to ignore the constitution and the law as long as the ends justify the means? LALALALA FOX NEWS TOLD ME WEVE BEEN INVADED, DADDY PLEASE INVOKE MARTIAL LAW. Insurrection Act of 1807. You really aren't very good at this, are you? 1
tac airlifter Posted June 9 Posted June 9 57 minutes ago, Banzai said: I have significant issue with using an event that should be handled with law enforcement and/or natl guard as a way to overreach executive power unconstitutionally, and I am honestly appalled at this forum’s complacency about it. I had to sift through several childish posts to find a sentence worth engaging, it'd be nice if you were more mature. The problem with your quoted point is the police refuse to do anything because the mayor refuses to do anything because the governor refuses to do anything. Fortunately we have a POTUS who disagrees with your opinion of constitutional limits, and unlike the LAPD will not allow this behavior. I'm glad you agree these dudes should be stopped. 1
kaputt Posted June 9 Posted June 9 3 hours ago, Banzai said: or does the implicit racism on this forum That’s fucking hilarious when the current immigration problem was largely caused by a far left political movement that believed that importing as many dark sinned people as possible was the ticket to winning elections. Because apparently skin color has everything to do with how you vote. Now tell me who’s racist? By the way, pulling the “you’re racist” card is the most clear way to know the person you’re arguing with is not someone worth spending time on. 1 5
HeloDude Posted June 9 Posted June 9 The post calling this forum/its members racist for disagreement of opinion has been removed. If people are wondering where the line is, here’s an example. 1 5
TreeA10 Posted June 9 Posted June 9 I'm not thrilled with the idea of using the military to get this under control but the city, county, and state leadership are unable or unwilling to use law enforcement to prevent destruction of property and attacks on Federal personnel executing their lawful duties. Democrats have pandered to these people for so long, they think free speech is throwing rocks and Molotov cocktails. FAFO. 1 1 2
Lord Ratner Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) I guess I don't understand the political motivation for deploying the national guard in Los Angeles. The Democrats have almost entirely been responsible for Republicans winning the last few cycles, because their governance inevitably blows up in the faces of their constituencies. California and specifically San Francisco are good examples. Illegal immigration and the trans stuff is another good example. So why save the day when the governor and mayor are protesting your involvement? I feel like a better strategy would be to continue doing what the people elected Trump to do, which is beef up immigration enforcement, and if there's a riot in Los Angeles every time and an illegal is detained, so be it. Wait for the riot to end, then go back in and detain another illegal. It should only take two or three of these riots before Los Angeles is brought to its knees, and then they can request the national guard from the president and allow Trump to swoop in and save the day. I have no love for these "protestors," but California clearly does, so why not let them reap what they sow? If the fear is damage to Federal facilities, use it as justification to move as many federal facilities out of California as possible. Part of the reason the swamp exists is because all of the federal infrastructure is in the most liberal parts of the country. This would be a great excuse for bringing in some more balance. Edited June 10 by Lord Ratner 2
Mole Posted June 9 Posted June 9 3 hours ago, Biff_T said: Just one AC-130 would solve this. My solution 2
McJay Pilot Posted June 9 Posted June 9 10 hours ago, Banzai said: Wrong, get better, be smarter, don’t be a sheep. To be fair $1.17 billion in 2010 is the equivalent of $1.72 billion today. So it has increased, but relatively not that much. Not quibbling as even inflation adjusted the LAPD hasn’t lost money.
Lord Ratner Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, McJay Pilot said: To be fair $1.17 billion in 2010 is the equivalent of $1.72 billion today. So it has increased, but relatively not that much. Not quibbling as even inflation adjusted the LAPD hasn’t lost money. Has the population of LA grown? Number of establishments and residences? Miles of roadways? I don't know the answers to those questions, but if they have increased, then an inflation-adjusted stable budget is effectively a cut. Edited June 9 by Lord Ratner
Clayton Bigsby Posted June 10 Posted June 10 11 hours ago, TreeA10 said: I'm not thrilled with the idea of using the military to get this under control but the city, county, and state leadership are unable or unwilling to use law enforcement to prevent destruction of property and attacks on Federal personnel executing their lawful duties. Democrats have pandered to these people for so long, they think free speech is throwing rocks and Molotov cocktails. FAFO. I’ll just point out the rubber bullets being fired, tear gas etc are LAPD and LASD, the wrecked cruisers on the 101 were CHP assets, I realize it is en vogue amongst the right to make it sound like the fedbois are totally isolated on an island amongst a city turned against them but that is not the case. City, county, state assets and personnel are doing their part, at the behest of state and local leadership.
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