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[Biff_T]

I want to see those pesky Epstein files.  

[Lawman]

Just a public service announcement as we get closer to it…

The first planning conferences for the Army’s 250th birthday parade happened before the 2024 election.

The people upset about this are finding any of number of reasons to include fabrications of reality on what had to be done to have the parade.

Tanks, along with Bradley’s and Paladins all have “special rubber pads” as standard on them at all times… oh and they can and do drive on normal asphalt roads every day without damage. So anybody making that point is an idiot.





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[icohftb]

10 hours ago, Lawman said:

Just a public service announcement as we get closer to it…

The first planning conferences for the Army’s 250th birthday parade happened before the 2024 election.

The people upset about this are finding any of number of reasons to include fabrications of reality on what had to be done to have the parade.

Tanks, along with Bradley’s and Paladins all have “special rubber pads” as standard on them at all times… oh and they can and do drive on normal asphalt roads every day without damage. So anybody making that point is an idiot.





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Those are German roads. Built to a higher standard 🙂

[Lawman]

Those are German roads. Built to a higher standard

I’m in an Armor division, we drives tanks on residential graded streets routinely. They didn’t build special streets on Cavazos, Bliss, Carson, etc, the tank trail is really there because the asphalt wears the track pads faster than dirt does.

There are videos out on YouTube of Abrams tanks giving a demo in a commissary parking lot.

Asphalt roads in the US are built to a 200 PSI standard before deformation. The Abrams in full combat kit puts down ~17 PSI. The Horses in the parade put down 25-30 depending on the horse. If you’re making this argument that Armor somehow destroys roads (when they do less damage than heavy truck traffic) you are in the idiot category.


Here let me google that for somebody that needs it…

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[brickhistory]

But, but...these are TRUMP tanks!  The physics are completely different!

Trust the science...

[Lawman]

But, but...these are TRUMP tanks!  The physics are completely different!
Trust the science...

The irony here is out of an abundance of caution (and knowing idiots will be out there taking pictures of existing potholes to make claims about damage) the Corps of Engineers is throwing millions in efforts to repair the streets neglected by local government for years.

The residents and city leadership should be happy that for a couple days pain of traffic delays, they’ve been given an easy button to do years worth of efforts to repair local infrastructure. But they’ll never actually say that.


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[icohftb]

1 hour ago, Lawman said:

I’m in an Armor division, we drives tanks on residential graded streets routinely. They didn’t build special streets on Cavazos, Bliss, Carson, etc, the tank trail is really there because the asphalt wears the track pads faster than dirt does.

There are videos out on YouTube of Abrams tanks giving a demo in a commissary parking lot.

Asphalt roads in the US are built to a 200 PSI standard before deformation. The Abrams in full combat kit puts down ~17 PSI. The Horses in the parade put down 25-30 depending on the horse. If you’re making this argument that Armor somehow destroys roads (when they do less damage than heavy truck traffic) you are in the idiot category.


Here let me google that for somebody that needs it…

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Well I was actually referring to How the Germans go about road construction compared to here in the US guess I should have added a sarcasm tag.

[Lawman]

Well I was actually referring to How the Germans go about road construction compared to here in the US guess I should have added a sarcasm tag.

Boss I’ve both been stationed in Germany, and driven down that exact road in Hohenfels. The autobahn is nothing particularly spectacular when it comes to actual aspects of road construction other than the abundant use of concrete over asphalt. The roads running between villages are nothing special.

The point being the amount of inane noise being generated and pearls being clutched over this upcoming parade is ridiculous and serves as a good marker for people who just want to be upset whether they have a reason or not.


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[disgruntledemployee]

1 hour ago, Lawman said:

Boss I’ve both been stationed in Germany, and driven down that exact road in Hohenfels. The autobahn is nothing particularly spectacular when it comes to actual aspects of road construction other than the abundant use of concrete over asphalt. The roads running between villages are nothing special.

The point being the amount of inane noise being generated and pearls being clutched over this upcoming parade is ridiculous and serves as a good marker for people who just want to be upset whether they have a reason or not.


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Because it's a stupid parade.  Like we need to spend $$$ on that shit.  But I guess little Taco needs an ego stroke so he can look mighty like Un.  Tards.

[Banzai]

Just the president of the US directly threatening someone over free speech. Somehow this is both constitutional AND moral.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-elon-musk-consequences-funds-democratic-candidates-rcna211605

[Lord Ratner]

22 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said:

Because it's a stupid parade.  Like we need to spend $$$ on that shit.  But I guess little Taco needs an ego stroke so he can look mighty like Un.  Tards.

This is a stupid argument. It's like arguing that amusement parks are a waste or zoos are cruel. Humans are not machines. They need entertainment and fanfare and first person contact with something for it to matter in their lives. Parades bring the military to the people we desperately need to support us. 

This type of thinking is why so many utopians and central planners keep failing over and over in their attempts to "improve" society. It may seem better to spend money on a hospital instead of a parade, just like a base theater is a "waste" of money when the runways needs new lighting. But entertainment is not optional; it's human nature. 

[brickhistory]

1 hour ago, Banzai said:

Just the president of the US directly threatening someone over free speech. Somehow this is both constitutional AND moral.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-elon-musk-consequences-funds-democratic-candidates-rcna211605

Cool.  Now do Covid circa 2021

Or speaking at school board meetings, same time frame.

And numerous other free speech actions, not twitter spats, but government actions taken to thwart free speech.

I'll take Trump blustering and https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ice-arrests-top-100000-under-trump-as-officials-expand-detention-efforts/ar-AA1GayKQ?ocid=BingNewsSerp

for $200, please...

Not high enough numbers, but a start combined with record low border crossings. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/25/trump-southern-border-crackdown-impact/83733347007/

And I'll put another $200 on that high horse you ride to win/place/show.

[Lawman]

Because it's a stupid parade.  Like we need to spend $$$ on that shit.  But I guess little Taco needs an ego stroke so he can look mighty like Un.  Tards.

It was planned in and programmed before he was elected president.

The Army was always going to celebrate its 250th birthday.

Clutch pearls harder and get outraged the next flyover you see while you’re at it.


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[Boomer6]

I get the facts about psi etc. on a tank driving straight down a road, but what about when they turn and do tank things. How's the impact of that on asphalt/concrete. Also, to prevent any triggering, I'm just curious.

[Lawman]

I get the facts about psi etc. on a tank driving straight down a road, but what about when they turn and do tank things. How's the impact of that on asphalt/concrete. Also, to prevent any triggering, I'm just curious.

The action of an in place turn or a single track turn can create a kind of twisting friction which would be concerning in certain kinds of loose terrain. There’s a video out there somewhere of an M88 getting stuck in a cobblestoned area of some German village and just doing everything wrong to get out, then tearing chunks of cobblestone up, only to get them lodged into the spaces between the road wheels and the track and break the track. Done properly it’s actually a way to have track vehicle dig it’s self a partial hull down position in certain types of ground, but asphalt isn’t gonna do that. It’s not going to remove the paint, and in fact the most concerning thing we have when we drive on a road is idiots curbing the raised pavement because they weren’t paying attention. A truck would do the same damage a tank would do in that case.

You can watch along our 7 miles of motor pools heavy tracked vehicles cross streets to go from the motor pool to the tank trail. They don’t have any visible damage along any of those roads.

Seriously there are dozens of very real economic cost analysis arguments, but the ones screaming about tanks are just ignoring those for sensationalist BS, and the media talking heads are part of it. The whole “special rubber pads” are standard on all our tracked vehicles, and we haven’t had an all metal track since my dad was in the military.


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[disgruntledemployee]

3 hours ago, Lawman said:

It was planned in and programmed before he was elected president.

The Army was always going to celebrate its 250th birthday.

Clutch pearls harder and get outraged the next flyover you see while you’re at it.


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Still retarded, just like it was in field training/zoo/etc.  Show me the real world training aspect that makes this worth it,

Signed, Killjoy

[Lawman]

Still retarded, just like it was in field training/zoo/etc.  Show me the real world training aspect that makes this worth it,
Signed, Killjoy

Every unit that did this is a T in “perform expeditionary operations,” on the METL….

We actually executed work at transcom and locally doing rail head ops….

You understand we are demonstrating the ability to move our heaviest ground forces and have them execute on the other end of that move right? 1-17 Cav is one of the flyover units, and that is literally their last hurrah before casing the colors and disbanding, so what did that really cost us?

Look if I can March in the Dothan peanut festival parade, we can damn sure put some effort into celebrating the Army’s 250s birthday.

Let’s compare the price tag on Tdy and equipment movement of this to say, the Dayton Air Show.


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