The Next President is...

[SurelySerious]

@Moderators
Just curious how many Twitter links back to back can a member post with zero comment and no value added to the forum before it's determined to be spam?

When Trump adds value, let me know. Otherwise, I’ll keep pointing out how asshat Trump and his supporters are going to get us AOC 2028 with this utter stupidity.

[SurelySerious]

[SurelySerious]

 

[Pooter]

2 hours ago, Boomer6 said:

@Moderators

Just curious how many Twitter links back to back can a member post with zero comment and no value added to the forum before it's determined to be spam?

What's the issue exactly? @SurelySerious has been a contributor here for as long as I can remember and is clearly not a spammer. The posts are all on topic, and the only response you've been able to put together is downvoting all of them, which is even less value added than the admittedly large amount of twitter copypasta. If you disagree, maybe put together a coherent defense of this tariff clown show and a real conversation can be had. Until then, remember this isn't reddit so we don't go whining to the mods when someone has opinions we don't like.

[Banzai]

On 4/4/2025 at 3:13 PM, HeloDude said:

Update on your Vietnam tariff discussion:

https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/vietnam-wants-to-cut-tariffs-down-to-zero-after-us-reciprocal-tariffs-trump-says-19584921.htm

Yeah, I’m sure you are aware that Vietnam right now has an effective tariff rate of about 1%, right? Huge winning getting that reduced.

You are one of the biggest propaganda echo chamber enjoyers.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/tm.tax.mrch.wm.ar.zs?locations=VN

[brickhistory]

What I voted for:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-video-shows-moment-when-nearly-50-suspected-tren-de-aragua-members-were-arrested-in-texas-raid/ar-AA1CiR7W?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[17D_guy]

19 hours ago, Smokin said:

This whole "no taxation without representation" thing seems to be extraordinarily poorly thought through.  The President is an elected official representing the entire US, so if he decides to implement tariffs, what part of that is "without representation"?  There are plenty of things to complain about with tariffs, but trying to claim that it is taxation without representation seems to me to be willful ignorance of the worst type.

Representation has generally meant the Congress, which is my argument. These powers should not run unchecked for any administration, much like the War Powers Act. 

Edited April 6 by 17D_guy

[Boomer6]

14 hours ago, Pooter said:

What's the issue exactly? @SurelySerious has been a contributor here for as long as I can remember and is clearly not a spammer. The posts are all on topic, and the only response you've been able to put together is downvoting all of them, which is even less value added than the admittedly large amount of twitter copypasta. If you disagree, maybe put together a coherent defense of this tariff clown show and a real conversation can be had. Until then, remember this isn't reddit so we don't go whining to the mods when someone has opinions we don't like.

I have no need to defend anyone. This isn't a partisan critique. If there were MAGA dudes posting nothing more than twitter posts back to back I'd call them out as well. This isn't twitter. If you want to post something relevant to the topic from another site then fine, but posting screenshots multiple times in a row and nothing else is spam. Period.

Edited April 6 by Boomer6

[Day Man]

2 hours ago, Boomer6 said:

I have no need to defend anyone. This isn't a partisan critique. If there were MAGA dudes posting nothing more than twitter posts back to back I'd call them out as well. This isn't twitter. If you want to post something relevant to the topic from another site then fine, but posting screenshots multiple times in a row and nothing else is spam. Period.

Username checks

[SurelySerious]

What I voted for:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-video-shows-moment-when-nearly-50-suspected-tren-de-aragua-members-were-arrested-in-texas-raid/ar-AA1CiR7W?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Unfortunately you voted for the whole circus, not just the elephants. All the other acts are queuing up Newsom/AOC 2028.

[17D_guy]

On 4/4/2025 at 2:33 PM, 17D_guy said:

Worked for him when I was in CYBERCOM. Good dude, mostly good ideas and really cared about the mission and the people. His bad idea(s) were trying to solve a problem he was put in, and the didn't ever take effect.

I can't speak on the CSAF, CNO, VCSAF getting fired with a personal anecdote. But Haugh knew his shit, was a cyber "operator" (stop laughing), and cared about his people.

This is a massive loss for warfighing in the "new" domain. And if this is because he wouldn't co-sign splitting up NSA and CYBERCOM then whoever replaces him to do that is setting back our capes at minimum a decade, if not more.

If this dude got bounced because Laura Loomer...wtf is even this administration. Holy shit, is this real life?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/national-security/3370237/trump-fired-nsa-director-tim-haugh-laura-loomer/

or

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2025/04/04/democrats-attack-discredited-conspiracy-theorist-laura-loomer-as-nsa-director-and-deputy-are-reportedly-axed/

Edited April 6 by 17D_guy

[Lord Ratner]

17 hours ago, Pooter said:

Until then, remember this isn't reddit so we don't go whining to the mods when someone has opinions we don't like.

Arguing with a stranger on the Internet is one thing. Arguing with a stranger who just posts other people's arguments from Twitter is pointless and boring. This website is interesting because it's a relatively small number of people engaging in discussion over a wide range of topics. You are able to build and recall personalities for the different posters here because of it. 

 

But when someone just posts a Twitter post, crosses their arms, and says "what about what this person said," now it's not a semi-personal discussion, it's the exact type of anonymous, non-continuous bickering on the internet that has turned so many people into basket cases and rageaholics. 

 

I don't care that he's a regular poster, he has become value-add of zero since his goal morphed from trying to prove his point to trying to win by showing how many random blue check Twitter posters agree with him. He can take that shit to Twitter if that's his interest. There are actually interesting people here who want to debate their point of view. He's not one anymore.

[17D_guy]

7 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said:

But when someone just...crosses their arms, and says "what about what this person said,"

lol

[SurelySerious]

Arguing with a stranger on the Internet is one thing. Arguing with a stranger who just posts other people's arguments from Twitter is pointless and boring. This website is interesting because it's a relatively small number of people engaging in discussion over a wide range of topics. You are able to build and recall personalities for the different posters here because of it. 
 
But when someone just posts a Twitter post, crosses their arms, and says "what about what this person said," now it's not a semi-personal discussion, it's the exact type of anonymous, non-continuous bickering on the internet that has turned so many people into basket cases and rageaholics. 
 
I don't care that he's a regular poster, he has become value-add of zero since his goal morphed from trying to prove his point to trying to win by showing how many random blue check Twitter posters agree with him. He can take that shit to Twitter if that's his interest. There are actually interesting people here who want to debate their point of view. He's not one anymore.

Hah! Refute the points.

[SurelySerious]

[SurelySerious]

[disgruntledemployee]

On 4/5/2025 at 7:42 PM, arg said:

PM me when they hit bottom

Same.

My point is that some here are saying it now the time to buy, but the bottom keeps getting lower and lower. 

Tesla is below what "experts" say was their rock bottom.  Elon is asking everyone not to sell.  Please help a billionaire out (not).

This stock market thing is getting out of hand and someone's gonna get hurt, paraphrasing from Red October.

[HeloDude]

I guess this is also bad?  Asking for a friend…

“We have offered zero-for-zero tariffs for industrial goods — as we have successfully done with many other trading partners — because Europe is always ready for a good deal, so we keep it on the table.”

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5236107-european-union-tariff-negotiations/amp/

[Biff_T]

38 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

Europe 

"Those guys are fags!" J. Spicoli

[ViperMan]

3 hours ago, HeloDude said:

I guess this is also bad?  Asking for a friend…

“We have offered zero-for-zero tariffs for industrial goods — as we have successfully done with many other trading partners — because Europe is always ready for a good deal, so we keep it on the table.”

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5236107-european-union-tariff-negotiations/amp/

Bruh. Don't miss the point. The point of these tariffs isn't ultimately to bring our friends and allies to the bargaining table to ensure Americans get fair deals, m'kay. They are being imposed solely for the purpose of increasing the cost of living in America...because. At least that's what Hakeem Jeffries would have me believe if I thought he had a single brain cell in his noggin.

[Pooter]

58 minutes ago, ViperMan said:

Bruh. Don't miss the point. The point of these tariffs isn't ultimately to bring our friends and allies to the bargaining table to ensure Americans get fair deals, m'kay. They are being imposed solely for the purpose of increasing the cost of living in America...because. At least that's what Hakeem Jeffries would have me believe if I thought he had a single brain cell in his noggin.

Maybe we would know the reason behind the tariffs if the admin would pick one from their ever-growing laundry list of disjointed grievances and good idea fairies..

Tariffs are solely negotiating tool to get Canada and Mexico to crack down on border policy..

oh wait no it’s actually a negotiating tool to get other countries to reduce their tariffs on us..

oh wait no actually those countries don’t even have tariffs on us in many cases, it’s to remedy trade deficits which are a ripoff somehow..

oh wait no it’s actually that tariffs are a good thing and will literally make us rich..

oh wait no it’s actually to nerf trade so we bring back manufacturing..

oh wait no it’s actually to deliberately crash the economy to refinance our debt at a lower interest rate..

[icohftb]

1 hour ago, Pooter said:

Maybe we would know the reason behind the tariffs if the admin would pick one from their ever-growing laundry list of disjointed grievances and good idea fairies..

Tariffs are solely negotiating tool to get Canada and Mexico to crack down on border policy..

oh wait no it’s actually a negotiating tool to get other countries to reduce their tariffs on us..

oh wait no actually those countries don’t even have tariffs on us in many cases, it’s to remedy trade deficits which are a ripoff somehow..

oh wait no it’s actually that tariffs are a good thing and will literally make us rich..

oh wait no it’s actually to nerf trade so we bring back manufacturing..

oh wait no it’s actually to deliberately crash the economy to refinance our debt at a lower interest rate..

Who would have known they had so many uses!

[SurelySerious]

It’s a good thing this clown is using emergency power for such an imminent threat since the other party controls both chambers of Congress and he couldn’t possibly pass legislation regarding a massive tax increase.

[SurelySerious]

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