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Still no one approaching the burning wreck, not our guys or the other emergency responders. No chute was seen and no beeper. Last satellite hit reported a severe descent rate, about 45,000+ fpm. Iraq Block 52. .

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Doesn't look good. Out of curiosity, do they fly our jets, or does Iraq provide/maintain their own for training over here?

Both. Their Block 52+ that they own are being delivered to there. Reportedly, this was the first of those brand new jets.

Nothing but a burning hole in the ground, Douglas FD allowed it to burn itself out. Not much else there. Lucky it didn't hit a little further west of where it did, or it'd have been around the city.

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"A spokesman for the Iraqi defense minister identified the pilot as Brig. Gen. Rafid Mohammed Hassan but said the pilot's fate still is not known..." (Source)

Correction, Brig.Gen. Rasid Mohammed Sadeeq...

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Those are brand new jets just off the assembly line. I wonder the way things are going if they will ever leave for Iraq.

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Anyone know if this guy was a Col just a couple years ago? Flew with a Col Hassan several times in the T-6. He was a former Mig-21 driver from the first Gulf War who was on his way to Vipers. I would hope he would be through the school house by now but I know how it goes with these guys.

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That's the thing with this program though, they've been "in the schoolhouse" forever cuz they can't take their jets to Iraq until the nation has stabilized itself (from what I heard the training itself was taking longer than they though too). Sadly, I'd say there's a good chance that he was the same guy, granted Hassan is a pretty common name though.

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That's the thing with this program though, they've been "in the schoolhouse" forever cuz they can't take their jets to Iraq until the nation has stabilized itself

They've been there 4 years and have only received their jets in the last 6 months. Article I read said two of them had just finished FLUG and were 18-24 months away from IPUG.

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