C-21.Pilot

Fvck.... Cannot read the message because no .mil access while on leave -- but, from what I'm reading, I'm: 1. not eligible for the bonus due to TAFMSD 2. not eligible for early out due to 11MXXX 3. not eligible for early out because I'm prior enlisted This circus keeps getting better. GC - please PM me so you and I together can find something where I can get out NOW....I have all my ducks in a row to go make some $$$ in the airlines. I'm your huckleberry....

What that picture means to me = STOP-LOSS. ###### GC...

If you are picking your dream sheet based on location, then you are already way behind.... Kinda reminds me of a time when guys would "jump for joy" when the "awesome" KC-135 to McDill would drop down, celebrate, then be pissed at the system for sending them to Grand Forks for an assignment... Bottom line - choose the MISSION you want to fly. The ONLY differing mission is airdrop vs. refueling. However, look at ops tempo (can and will change) and deployment locations (not likely to change). P.S. - I've been stationed at CHS and TCM, and have been to every other AMC base out there. I would go to and be very happy with CHS in a heartbeat (you can do your own search on CHS). I loved the Pacific NW and would love to go back there as well...don't forget, Hickam and Elmendorf are potential assignements later down the road. I've never flown the KC-10, but plenty of folks say it's the best thing since sliced bread. As a former C-17 driver, I loved the mission and diversity of Barney, but the TDY tempo took it's toll (avg about 300 days a year during a 5 yr stretch several years ago). Big picture, once you leave UPT - the airframe and community you choose will be the best fit for you. Don't know why folks think a single squadron C-17 base is better....baffles me actually. If it is a leadership thing, screw that -- you won't deal with that. Leadership problems are typically cyclical from poor to great.

I've been told by many before me that choosing your family over the AF is the best decision you will ever make. That's the route I choose....

1. It's not funny, it's sad. 2. The "some" guys, for the most part, are guys I would never follow or respect in battle. 3. I would complain about a 365 to. I personally feel that if you patrol this "unspoken" notion about being dicked over as a Col, how many 11F's would you suspect stay in the rack and stack game. Eh, what do I know. I'm not A1.

I think Rusty and Chang are the same person.

The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round.....

^ And that my friends just about sums the entire debacle up in two posts. GC - please print Rusty's last post and place it above every urinal you can find, forward it to every GO you know, and let them read it. Invite those involved to the number crunching game to this forum. It sums up a lot of frustration. Rusty - have to agree with joe. I jumped ship from the C-17 to AETC and won't go back to AMC. There are avenues for folks to jump ship and be home with the family: 1. I have a UPT classmate of mine....C-17 background....who jumped at an ACSC instructor gig. Hates his job, loves his family. 2. I have a SOS classmate of mine who is at GF right now...hates his job, loves his family. What I would suggest to ANYONE who wants to fly and be home -- take an AETC gig. Sucks being away from the fight. You'll take one 6-month deployment to Tampa (me) or to a -Stan and be home every night otherwise. I would also pointy out that GC, when talking about reduction of manning, hasn't once claimed that the 11- forces is the primary target....just a particular age/rank/TAFMS group. ** I suspect that many non-ops guys are possibly on the bubble. I personally feel that A1 will meet the numbers they are looking for. If they don't meet their mission, those, like GC, will still get promoted and pushed up the chain without a glimmer of insight.

Agreed. Which is all the better case to allow NCO type guys a AFSC consistent with preds. All the other branches have toyed with it and some are actually employing E's to fly their UAV's.

Rusty - Just printed off this B.S. Like you, I just found out I wasn't eligible. Don't know if I was going to sign or not, but my TAMFS date is 7 Jan 1997.... I'll be talking to the CC tomorrow, giving back my deployment to AFPC, and living the good life....

Yes...second the local hobby shop as well.

Have your daughter use the "Find It Guide" which can be Googled -- "Kaiserslautern American find It Guide". There are several reputable companies there.... FYSA - auto work in Germany, especially if her car is American or Japan, is VERY expensive.

The locals in Germany know both the TLA rates and the Per Diem rates -- you get what you pay for. Don't expect to find anything *under* the rate -- as they will charge exactly the local TLA rate. When I was stationed there, we stayed in TLA on base for about 2 weeks -- wasn't bad -- and if I go back, would stay there again.

I have both...

Nope. Haven't you heard - we are all rapists! And the crowds rejoice....

Just a question.... I heard from a news source that their was a recording of the word "Wait" or "Weight"....which could be implied to mean several things. I believe, if the CVR was rendered unusable, this could have been a quick discussion of "Weight shift"....but it was cut short.

Talked to more folks "in leadership positions" here at Randolph. Expected to release "very soon" -- amounts and years are all going up. Again, was told by another source (i.e AFPC dude) that a 7 yr, 35K bonus is expected along with the 5 yr @ 25K....I obviously am holding out hope to the rumors, and expect this to be completely inaccurate. EDIT - there was no talk of it being re-named, we all just said "the bonus" and it was understood what we were talking about. We'll see....

Rumor floating around here at KRND is 5 @ 25K and 7 @ 35K.... Our OG discussed today...

busdriver, Yes - there are EM charts in the Dash-1, but more specifically in the FCF T.O. The AFTTP also has some limited numbers. Knowing the EM charts cold would not have prevented this....recognizing and recovering from the stall indications as taught in UPT would have saved the day. Unfortunately, that communitty (I was a former member) was - up to that point - auto tuned to disregard many of the WACS/CAWS messages as "routine." in addition, per the report, flying the prescribed airshow demo profile which limited to 60 AOB would also have been nice...

AD O-5 snack-o flying 3 lines a day. Where do I sign up.

I don't get the math.... 5 yr - 125K 10 yr - 250K ...it's still the same $ per year? $250K is enticing, but why a 10 yr? You'd be doing much better at offering a 7 yr bonus, knowing that folks would easily stay the extra 2.5 yrs or so. Take the normal progressed officer. 6-9 months on casual, 1 yr of UPT, then that's when your clock starts. 10 yrs places him/her just outside the 20 yr retirement window. I think this is bogus, but - being one in the initial eligibility window, hope the $250K is a viable option.

I was the Wing Deployment Manager guy a year or so ago. At that time, there was NO ADSC incurred for any deployment related training, to include any flying related training.

Absolutely. If he doesn't have the retainability for the 1 year, you can tell Big Blue to go screw themselves. If he truly says that he's getting out, then he won't be eligible for the bonus *if* it gets released. Because of his decline in deployment, he will be DAV coded in MILPDS which will result in his ineligibility for ACP. Big picture, if the reclama goes thru, some bro is going to be telling his family shortly that he'll be away for a year.

Wasn't there unfortunately, but the town of Boerne (pronounced: Burn-knee) had one hell of a turn out for Tyler for his funeral. The local media here in San Antonio did a very respectable job of covering the story. Can't find the video yet. http://www.woai.com/news/local/story/Boerne-honors-fallen-Airman/Ubq3ekhzlU6wrDWpF6jSGw.cspx

"Popular private schools are Heritage Academy and Annunciation Catholic." Agree - Emmanual is also a viable option. "Popular private schools are Heritage Academy and Annunciation Catholic." Agree - Emmanual is also a viable option. HOWEVER - don't be confused about the private school system in/around Columbus. They are NOT superior in academic settings in any way shape or form. There were/are several people in my former squadron at CBM who bounced there kids from Heritage to Emmanual....and from private to Caledonia simply due to internal factors at the school. Columbus (city proper) is definitely a city of who has vs. has nots.