Polar Bear

What about the AGR's? Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Ironic how guys want to be home and not miss holidays but go to the airlines. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Why is that? Everyone is happier on AW ;) Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Is working 12-14 hours 6 days a week really being home? Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Are U-2 pilots happier than the rest of the AF? Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Does Lockheed come anywhere close to that for the guys at Luke or Hill? Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Interesting thoughts on building more Vipers and Eagles. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Navy guys would disagree ;) I did see the Fresno unit has 2 AGR jobs available, that should help. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Must really want it to live in Fresno[emoji51] Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Federal employees can use Tricare now? Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Why are guys so hung up on the airlines? Are they worried that after 3 years they could be told to walk? Is the airline lifestyle that inticing or is the AGR lifestyle not worth it even for the guys who commute? As far as the fed government retirement the Army guys don't seem to complain. Maybe it's the lack of airline opportunity or supporting the guys on the ground mentality. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

I see lots of Art postings in the Guard/Reserves but are they not giving out AGR jobs? Would guys stay in or have they already made the decision to jump to the airlines for more stability? Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Had no idea that a Guard fighter unit got to teach abroad. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

I can tell you the times of the "Guard Bum" is gone. 9/11 really created what we know as bumming because the airlines weren't hiring. Most of the bums have gotten airline jobs and most don't have interest in coming in. Why? Increased CENTCOM and PACOM rotations. When people are deploying twice a year and have a civilian job, they don't want to spend their free time at the unit. With a lot of our more experience IP-Major/Lt Col types bailing out of ART positions, we are hiring 1Lt's right out of UPT into full-time jobs. Great for them. Not so great for the unit. The ART program will die an ugly death. It takes getting hired at a Step 7 with a 25% retention bonus to match what an O-4/12+ makes on ACIP. Or you can go get hired with UAL or DAL and make more on 2nd year FO pay while sitting on reserve. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is why would someone out of Upt go to a regional when they can make more bumming or being an Art? I didn't realize guys were delpoying outside of hercs and tankers. For those who want to bum is there more opportunity for man days? I'm surprised that so many people want to go the airline route. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

With the shortage of ART's is that helping the guys bumming get more days? It doesn't seem like the bums are filling the full time jobs. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Fresno 😓😝😤 Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Saw the MO Guard was hiring for the B2. Have they been doing this or is this new? Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

What's the penalty if you don't make it? Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Wait, don't you have to be 55 to get a federal retirement? Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Fair enough, just seems like Art's work more for less pay. But if you want to punch at 20 instead of pursuing an AGR retirement that makes sense. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Yes please. Caseylf - No I wasn't. Why would you trade being an AGR for ART? Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Were you forced out of the AGR? Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

You can't post that you're voluntarily staying in the AF on this forum. This is Baseops, only angry people allowed :) Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

More than any other branch? Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

You don't have to work more than your four 10's or five 8's, that's your choice. An AGR works even less. The best thing about being a parent is tucking your kids in bed each night. Impossible to do that at an airline. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk