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I don’t understand what this means, could you explain?

We can’t, and we are. this is preceisly why open minded debate is so important. By the way, we’ve never had a public reckoning with past scientific certainties that turned out false: I recall being taught that acid rain would destroy crops by 1990 and the world would starve. How about that hole in the ozone layer 80s kids were forced to fear? “Every expert agrees this scary thing will happen soon, no time for questions, do what we say now!” has been a progressive TTP for a long time. Listening to each other politely and crafting arguments that convince is hard. Squashing disagreement and ordering compliance via fiat is easy. Which method would you prefer to be used on you?

Very telling that a “what’s right with the AF” thread quickly sank into stories of what’s wrong. The organization is broken, and no one below O-6 is causal. Some are contributing.

Yes. Everyone has different circumstances resulting in different calculations.

I bet if we deleted the NAF and the Group, everything would work just fine.

Excellent article by Naylor, thanks for posting. From senior levels to line operators, SEALs have behaved in a disgraceful manner regarding this incident. Truly shameful. No one would question their honor for making a tough call under fire and later finding out they’d been wrong. Shit happens, we get it. But they have blocked recognition for Chapman, and even gone back and changed their stories to shit on the guy because they couldn’t face facts: they left our man behind. Those few who have seen the AF product will tell you evidence for the USAF version is overwhelmingly convincing. Edited to add: for those unfamiliar with the author, he has written extensively on Anaconda and is respected by SOF leadership. Bottom line, credible dude, not a hack, worth reading the long article.

Huggy if you come back on AD you should try your hand on a different aircraft. We’d love to have you in AFSOC.

There is a lot of misunderstanding about joint jobs. They are mostly bad for a career in the AF unless timing and luck are on your side. Unless you’re a BTZ on your way to higher rank, I encourage folks to stay away from joint billets as O4/O5s (exception- if there’s a really cool job you want, go do it).

Story time

What’s a quad chart?

Damn, badass!

CH are you sure? I thought his board was later this year after his change of command. Duck, no numbered AF in AFSOC.

I agree in principle with the sentiments of your post. Except this part above. I’m not sure what you would consider a “credible claim” so I will share this article and allow everyone to draw their own conclusions. I think my characterization was fair, and you should acknowledge that the assembled SC team is disproportionately full of democratic donors with a history of working for partisan democratic causes. Whether or not they can set aside personal opinions and remain objective is up for debate, I don’t know. That his team is comprised exclusively of partisan Democrats is a fairly straightforward statement.

Did you read your own link? Those charges aren’t related to trump “collusion” with Russia during the 2016 campaign. Your link answers your question- those folks were indicted for pre-campaign shenanigans unrelated to the reason a special council was originally authorized. I don’t care. So yea, one year and zero evidence of the original claims that opened this SC.

The above statement is exactly how I feel about the Russian collusion narrative. A year of hardcore investigation by a special council filled with partisan democrats has produced zero evidence the Trump campaign colluded or conspired with Russia to win the election. How much longer should the nation endure the Mueller probe?

Stitch, sounds like the young man in question should dump the current wife and find a more attractive one that supports his dreams of living dangerously. Alternatively, keep current wife and allow her to maintain the fiction that he makes only 650$ a month. It’s all technique. Good luck!

Skitzo you’ll make O-5. If for no other reason simply because you used the term “catagory 1b level strat” which I’m not sure what it is, but sounds like something O-5s should know. Seriously though, you’ll be fine. What you’re describing sounds like what an average board member puts in the “yes” pile.... assuming no derogatory info.

Skitzo are you APZ or IPZ? If IPZ I think you’re a shoe-in. If APZ and no derogatory information, I think you have a better than 50% chance.

I also took the extended bonus out to 20.5 years. I had an awesome job crushing enemies, doing well at it, my family was happy, and I thought it could continue. My last three years have been awful, I was at an irrelevant non-flying staff job & it was very disheartening professionally. I inadvertently brought my unhappiness home and my family, to my shame, was affected by my foul mood and lack of professional satisfaction. I knew I was rolling the dice by taking the bonus, but I rolled snake eyes and it was worse than anticipated. Not everyone who stays in the service past their commitment is a Kool-Aid drinking careerist. However, if I could make the choice over again I would have left the service and not taken the bonus. And I will certainly leave when my commitment is up because I just can’t stay in an organization that doesn’t care about its people or its mission..... and by not caring for the people doing the mission, the Air Force has shown me they don't care about the mission. For those who leave when their commitment is up, I salute you brothers and wish you the best. For those who stay, I salute you as well and hope that you will be gainfully employed by commanders who care about you.

Yikes bro. You behind the Wikileaks stuff too?

17D I'm glad you post here bro. Keep doing it.

I don’t have any answers to those questions bro. No idea what the solution is out there. Hard to care, which I know his immature. Mainly just curious how you saw that situation, and if you’d give Trump credit for reversing any of Obama’s failures. Not sure I understand your “yes and no” reply.

Using that logic, do you blame Obama for reversing the gains started by Bush in iraq? Not looking to debate the efficacy of the original Iraq war, I think the whole thing was a massive mistake by Bush. Regardless, when Bush left office things were quantifiably trending better and under Obama they went to epic shit levels.... rise of the caliphate, etc. And under Trump that issue has been resolved. All of us should know the demise of IS as a territory holding major force is 100% attributable to this administration. So does Trump get credit for reversing Obama‘s policies in Iraq? And should Obama be blamed for reversing Bush’s policies?

Champs comments are good, but I’ll add my opinion: if you don’t want to do it, and you can option out, then option out. Make your own choices.

JCPOA was a terrible plan that has directly funded international terrorism. The Iranians used portions of the cash we paid to expand operations in Syria and Yemen, operations diametrically opposed to US interests. You ask a very good question: is there a solution to this problem without violence? One solution is major US disengagement from the entire theater. I don’t think the Iranians would chase us down if we were out of their Geographic area of regional influence. Unfortunately that idea not politically palatable for the United States; but I toss it out there because isolationism would prevent a conflict with Iran. But if we aren’t leaving and they aren’t changing, collision is inevitable. I don’t think regime change precipitated by a US invasion is a good idea either. We really suck at doing that. Nor do I think sanctions will facilitate internal discontent enough that the regime falls from within; lots of quality research by serious academics on this topic. You say you disagree that we need another proxy war in the Middle East, why? Unlike OIF we can sustain small scale SOF centric wars for prolonged periods relatively cheaply. It keeps our adversaries bogged down and occupied, for very little cost on our part. Side benefit: it would be an attractive meat grinder for jihadis who could go die there instead of trying to attack Europe or the US.