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This one was too funny and well written not to pass on to the rest of the baseops.net communuty. This could probably go in the "Leadership at the Deid" thread, or even the "I Hate Reflective Belts" thread, but since it is from Iraq and deals with combat showers, I figgered I'd piss the mods off and start a new thread for it. Names obscured to protect the innocent.

Baseops.net post: "You fuckers will not believe where I am right now..."

Aren't you in a position to fix this?

Negative. BG Webb is one of two ACGs. JSOC now has 4 GO/FOs... (as opposed to the two it had just a few years ago). JSOC Heirarchy: CO - VADM McRaven (soon to be CDR USSOCOM) DCG - BG LaCamera (formerly JSOC J3) ACG - BG Thomas (formerly DDSO and prior to that JSOC CoS) ACG - BG Webb (formerly at AFSOC) You aren't going to find anything on the SIPR ref. this msn. Uday and Qusay were obliterated by a conventional army unit using TOW missiles in broad daylight after a long barricade situation. This mission is in a whole different class... legendary... Trust me, these men would rather not be singled out. They aren't in it for accolades or recognition. They've been responsible for literally thousands of EKIA (none of which have garnered nearly the fanfare of this Op) and are happy to remain in anonymity. I just hope our patriotic OSD civilians don't leak the operational details while chasing a moment of press glory. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are additional links to open source articles on this topic: https://thecable.fore...osama_bin_laden The timeline of the mission to kill Osama bin Laden Posted By Josh Rogin Monday, May 2, 2011 - 2:45 AM Share The mission to kill Osama bin Laden was years in the making, but began in earnest last fall with the discovery of a suspicious compound near Islamabad, and culminated with a helicopter based raid in the early morning hours in Pakistan Sunday. "Last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground," President Obama told the nation in a speech Sunday night. "Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body," he said. -------------------------------- https://www.npr.org/2...aden-was-hiding Did Pakistan Know Where Bin Laden Was Hiding? by Alan Greenblatt Credit: NPR text size A A A May 2, 2011 Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, the Pakistani army chief of staff, spoke to cadets at the Kakul Military Academy on April 23. "The terrorists' backbone has been broken and, inshallah [God willing], we will soon prevail," he said in his speech, which was broadcast on state television. The fact that Osama bin Laden was living roughly a mile away from Kakul in a fortified compound has proved embarrassing both for the Pakistani military and for its civilian government, calling into question whether they knew about his presence in Abbottabad — or how they could have failed to know.

And yet more evidence that we are broken as a service.

I was referring to this order: COMPLIANCE WITH THIS PUBLICATION IS MANDATORY on the reg... "Get over myself"? because I choose to follow a written order? No, not to predict, but to judge their performance, based on your own experience of other pilots ICW the reg. I would like to know that I judged them based on the reg; I think it is "ridiculous and grandiose" to judge someone without reference to the reg, as though I know more than all those that came before me who wrote it. Not my intent to imply check ride scores are dependent on financial concerns, rather AETC has the resources to demand their EPs give Q3s and not Q2s. I was offering the outcome differences between the two, a blanket Q3 for every unsat grade costs everyone more. Not sure how we got here. I thought the discussion was "should Q2s be allowed?" based on the original statement that an EP should not be an EP if he gives one. I am not sure how you jumped to the conclusion that I have to always give Q3s to fix a situation, when in fact, I am trying to justify the use of a Q2 when it is necessary INSTEAD of a Q3. Most people associate a Q2 as the same as a Q1 with downgrades, I see it as similar to Q3 but for non-critical areas. I don't think they are justified very often, but I can see situations when they are. I have yet to hear a single argument for EPs not to give Q2, except for the AETC V3 from Crew Report that says "serious consideration" should be given for a Q3. I am just giving my side, and I know I have been wrong on occasion [/sarcasm], but I would like to know people's rationale for not using them.

This is a great telling of the story from Rescue's point of view, and reads much better than I'm sure the citation will. https://www.bagram.afcent.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123254042

What happens in Thailand stays in Thailand....

If it were me, I'd rather the entire world not know my identity. America may be damn proud, but there's alot of folks out there who may want to harm my family. ...There's something to be said for quiet professionalism. This shot makes me sad: There are slide-clickers even at the O-7 level.

Foul.

It turns out that the picture was taken during the NFL Draft. "With the 12th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Chris Ponder, QB FSU." It would explain the reactions.

And to think that there are still some UPT FLT/CC's and SQ/CC's who bring in studs and question them on their decision to put Helo's #1 on their dream sheet...

Hitler reacts.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8A2unABbtA&feature=youtu.be

Chuck Norris tweet: "Long layover in Islamabad"

To whoever pulled the trigger... :beer: A good commercial made even better:

It might be a bit of a shock for him when he gets to his afterlife and finds out it was really 77 Virginians.

I won't believe it until I see a death certificate /sarcasm

I hear Donald Trump is very proud of himself for the role he played in bringing OBL to justice.

Skitzo, we live in a world that has checkrides, and those checkrides have to be guarded by SEFEs with red pens. Who's gonna do it? You? You, BQZip01? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for downgrades, and you curse the FORM 8. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Alarm Red's downgrade, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves useless careers. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at CGO meetings, you want me giving that checkride, you need me giving that checkride. We use words like how many feet off altitude, how many knots off airspeed. We use these words as the backbone of a life being tactically useless. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who steps and starts engines under the blanket of the checkrides I give, and then questions the manner in which I ask general knowledge questions. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a Master Question File, and run as fast as you can from the weapons officer. Either way, I don't give a damn what Q-1 no downgrade you think you are entitled to.

Get ######ed, the Air Force needs its University, just to say it has one. Cut the fat from elsewhere. Yea i went to the zoo, but my opinion still stands

If you only knew half of what he has offered...

I don't follow rules because I don't give Q-2's? So what's the difference between a Q-1 with downgrades and a Q-2? Nothing, they both passed with areas they need to work on that they showed a deficiency. Thanks for the reading Vol 2's, however my world (AETC) here's what the AETC Supt says about Evals under the Q-2 section. Which I agree. And if someone shows a U in an non-critical area, they need corrective training. And 99.69% of the time on evaluations when you need have been identified needing corrective training you're going to be Q-3'd in my community. Speak for your own, which last time I checked had problems with airshow demos and running Approach & Landing checklists. It was a figure of speech, lighten up Francis.