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  2. Sure thing tough guy. Probably because we have not had as many political assassinations in recent years. Also, Vance and Kirk were good friends. Finally, for close to half the nation, this was a significant emotional event. They tried to kill Trump twice, why should we be surprised. And when they did try to kill Trump, the left questioned if he was even shot instead of trying to calm things down. It is not just the media
  3. Totally agree with brabus.
  4. He was raised Mormon and assumedly in a conservative household (assumption based on religion + father’s LEO career). Regardless it’s irrelevant, because he was radicalized at some point - none of the 18 years in his parents household mattered the second he was on his own and consumed radical information that drastically altered his perceptions and understanding of societal norms. This is a good lesson in how important it is to teach kids at home to be rigorous in critical thought, seek verifiable evidence from multiple sources before deciding something is accurate/true, and sow strong moral fibers in them so that they cannot be easily led astray once outside the parents’ purview/guidance. To that extent, I think you can trace a lot of problems in our society today to failed parenting, completely independent of the household’s political affiliation. Lacking parenting is across the entire political spectrum. I feel horrible for this POS’s parents. I’m sure they are tormented by thoughts of where they went wrong or what they should have done/emphasized that they didn’t.
  5. turns out I'm a Joneser
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  6. And that his parents are MAGA
  7. Today
  8. Tell me why you assert the shooter was a Christian.
  9. The left has been pushing hate and rage for years, inciting violence constantly. This has culminated in a leftist (or at least someone who bought the left’s rhetoric to an extent) assassinating someone. Conservatives aren’t starting a war, the left started this war many decades ago, and they have really crossed the line now. We may be at a significant FAFO moment in our history - remains to be seen what that means in the coming weeks/months/years. Necessary disclaimer: the term “left” used above does not describe those that simply have liberal views on economics, healthcare, social services (e.g. welfare), etc. It describes those who hold views diametrically opposed to American/Christian values and seek to destroy those ideas and institutions. Examples are movements like Antifa and BLM, people who openly cheer, or at least tacitly support, murder of those they disagree with, etc.
  10. Remember Vice President Vance and Charlie were close friends and Vance wouldn’t be where he is without Charlie’s support and help. This is a close friend flying in to pay respects and help out his friend and family. It just so happens that he has access to a C-32 to do this. Could have Trump sent his personal 75 for this? 100% he could have, but it would have his of kids on it and not a USAF plane to fly them. But then if Vance wanted to go he’d have to take the C-32 so that answers that.
  11. Kirk shouldn’t have been shot. It tears at the fabric of the first amendment and the right to express whatever opinions you want. Our country was founded on spirited debate - not McCarthyism and cancel culture, and especially not assassinations. Although I suppose the 1960s would point that this is not entirely unprecedented, unfortunately. The media is doing its best to divide and cause anger - they’re crushing it. I do wonder how the media is going to spin the fact that the shooter was a white male christian who was raised in a MAGA household and likely taught to shoot by his cop dad. This all comes after multiple false reports that have literally been deleted (see WSJ). Yesterday, many on your all’s side were calling for war. Now, it appears that luckily the civil war may have been postponed due to the shooter not meeting the antifa leftist trans immigrant profile that was originally put out. Our society is unwell, that’s for sure.
  12. I’ve never heard of the same type of scenario playing out, not to say it has never happened. That said, I’m not going to be upset about this or take it as a slight against military members, their sacrifice, etc. This tragedy is an extraordinary moment in our history, so it’s not a crazy notion to do things that treat/emphasize it as such.
  13. Commute worthy longer read https://www.twz.com/air/u-s-needs-to-be-building-tens-of-thousands-of-shahed-136-clones-right-now The US needs this but really it’s our allies that need this as they live in the neighborhood Every aggressor should know if they decide to forcibly change borders there are 10s of thousands of these and like systems just waiting to be launched at them
  14. Check yourself bud. I just asking a simple question, don’t make into something it isn’t. Plus your counters are not the same situation. We all know every president, from both parties, has transported their supporters, friends, ect. Thanks for stating the obvious but with through a singular lens. For the sake of non political bullshit, the correct rephrasing could be this: How many times has a civilian’s remains, a.k.a. someone with no official government position or former military service, been transported on military or state aircraft inside CONUS. I get that we’ve recovered people from overseas, it just seems very extraordinary for it to happen here at home. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  15. Those aren't the same. From now on, I expect Vance to transport the remains of the next military member that is killed in action.
  16. GMAFB? Funny you never asked the question the other way... George Clooney: The actor accompanied Biden on Air Force One in June 2024 for a major campaign fundraiser in Los Angeles. Julia Roberts: Roberts also flew with Biden for the star-studded Los Angeles fundraiser in June 2024. Jimmy Kimmel: The late-night host was a guest on Air Force One with Biden and other celebrities for the fundraiser event in Los Angeles. Sean McGarvey: A top union official, McGarvey was one of a group of union workers invited by Biden to tour the aircraft in September 2024
  17. If Vance was on AF-2 the C-17 usually transports his limo’s and Secret Service Detail. Normal ops.
  18. I hope they’re both fired with zero severance pay. Teri has always come off as an unhinged lunatic - zero surprise she’s persona non grata in this case.
  19. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2025/09/11/jd-vance-charlie-kirk-body-phoenix/86096344007/
  20. Thats my only gripe with all this shit. Talks of viewing in the Capitol (state) as well.
  21. Glad none of my dues will be going to that effort… at least until someone at my company steps on his or her dick.
  22. Delta has 130 million plus Medallion members alone. Say only a minuscule, 10,000, don’t spend $500-1000 a ticket for one year to protest. Well I think Delta will do the math. They will be offered early retirement to move on. Otherwise Pax will, now and then, ask who’s flying….
  23. I saw a C-17 in PHX too.
  24. Nah....the union will come rushing to their rescue.
  25. Yesterday
  26. Why’d Kirk get a military honor guard and flown back on AF2? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  27. From a Delta bro… It’s possible that there might actually be appropriate actions for one’s consequences. What a novel concept.
  28. Red Arrows and RAF training jet proposal, T-50 https://theaviationist.com/2025/09/11/dsei-2025-news-roundup/
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