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  1. Disagree. Pushing your particular religious views onto the population as a whole is anathema to American values. No one is forcing Mike Pence to marry a man. No serious person is suggesting that his relIgion should change it’s beliefs. He is free to practice as he sees fit. Actively attempting to deny an entire segment of the population of rights the rest of us enjoy is certainly treating them poorly and is a shitty position to take.
  2. Agreed. Much better debate all around. I don’t see it moving the needle at all though.
  3. Substitute ‘for profit insurance company’ for ‘socialized medicine board’ in your example. I’m not sure which one’s better but I at least theoretically get a vote with one of those examples.
  4. I might be completely wrong here, but my sense is they’re being sarcastic. The “That stuff ain’t happening with Kamala Biden” remark seemed particularly tongue in cheek.
  5. The Interstate highway system is an excellent example. No where in the constitution does it say Americans are entitled to a safe and efficient nationwide transportation system. In fact, the founders could not possibly have predicted that there would ever be a need for such a system. That’s kind of the point. As the nation developed industrially and technologically, we collectively decided that a national highway system would be beneficial to the country as a whole. Tax dollars paid for it, and surely there were naysayers who insisted they would never use it and asked why their hard earned dollars should go to such a system. It’s called living in a modern, civilized society. When the society as a whole decides that there is an indispensable need, everybody gets to pitch in a little whether they like it or not. There are any number of examples of federally funded projects not specified by the constitution. How about the national power grid? The CDC? NASA? Hell, even a standing army, which the founders were dead set against, became something which we eventually discovered was impossible to do without. The point is, when we as a society decide that the benefits of having something outweigh the costs, the collective wins out and there will always be certain individuals who disagree. That may sound like big bad socialism, but it’s nothing new. And it’s the process we’re going through right now regarding healthcare. The collective has decided that the benefit outweighs the cost. This is why the Republican mantra is “repeal and replace” vs just “repeal”. Because they know the tide has turned and the majority of the public wants their government involved in the solution. IMO the battle over whether there should be some sort of national healthcare system is over and the discussion should be about what we want that system to look like. I agree that the ACA has some serious flaws, so let’s fix them or come up with something better.
  6. Um, so I suppose you think that mandatory car insurance is unconstitutional as well? Insurance 101: Everybody pays in, just in case & only a few will end up actually using the service. The idea behind mandating certain types of insurance (like car insurance), is that it doesn’t really work unless it’s universal. This holds true for healthcare. I might decide to save a few bucks and roll the dice with my health, but this makes it more expensive for everyone else and they’re still on the hook when/if I require emergency services that may have been unnecessary with preventative care. The argument is that a healthy population is good for the nation as a whole and it’s cheaper in the long run to do preventative maintenance than to try to fix a catastrophic breakdown.
  7. How do you separate the insurance aspect from healthcare? I’m not sure there’s a conversation to be had about the”best healthcare system in the world” without considering insurance in the equation. As far as “healthcare is not a right”, it’s abundantly clear that the majority of Americans would like it to be. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/03/most-continue-to-say-ensuring-health-care-coverage-is-governments-responsibility/
  8. Tax/Spending reform would be awesome to see. I’m a pretty liberal guy socially, but I would be intrigued by a serious fiscal reform plan. Unfortunately, neither party is serious about this. You could argue that the tea party movement came close, but they never had a fiscal reform plan other than “not a single tax penny more”. There was never a serious effort to close tax loopholes or cut wasteful spending. The willingness to support all things Trump just further proves that to the modern Republican Party, fiscal reform is little more than a talking point to appease voters. At least the Dems are true to their “tax and spend” motto.
  9. This is an important difference between the D’s and R’s right now. Dems know better than to nominate a candidate who is far outside the mainstream. Republicans, meanwhile, are clamoring to board the crazy train and leave their party’s traditional values behind. And I’ve got to agree with Drewpy here. While Joe and Kamala certainly espouse liberal values, they are both well within the mainstream. The idea that they are radical socialists (or controlled by radical elements) is simply untrue and is an obvious conservative trope attempting to scare people away.
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  11. Yeah, very confidence inspiring...
  12. Or.....you go with the simple answer: Media outlets of all stripes air the stories that draw more viewers, and there is a LOT of money in that. https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/355372/cable-tv-news-networks-grow-31-in-prime-time-ad-r.html
  13. I just feel bad for anyone who tuned in thinking they might learn something about either candidate’s views or policies. Wallace lost control early and Biden wasn’t exactly amazing but my nine year old is capable of interrupting less than, and having a more mature conversation than Donald Trump. Trevor Noah suggested we give the next moderator a spray bottle.
  14. In response to Lloyd: I said all of the upcoming stories about Trump will be factual. A better way of putting that is that they will be based in fact. The Biden camp will certainly embellish the stories and the media (except Fox) won’t push back very hard. Being able to use the media to your advantage and push your narrative has been a key campaign skill for a long time now. I think Trump has committed an unforced error here strictly in terms of campaign tactics. As far as his base having only grown, I’ve got to disagree with you on that one. He did well with college educated whites in 2016. Signs in 2020 point to him losing much of that demographic, especially women. In 2016 there was a huge contingent of voters who didn’t want to vote for Trump, but weren’t about to vote for Hillary. That group either held their noses and voted Trump, or didn’t vote at all. Biden doesn’t carry the baggage or stigma that Hillary did. Trump supporters are surely a vocal and visible bunch, but are certainly not a “silent majority”(especially the silent part). My guess is that we’ll see an even larger popular vote lead for Biden than we did for Clinton. The electoral college fight will be much closer and there are an awful lot of disturbing ways being discussed that Republicans could manipulate that body (to be even more) in Trump’s favor.
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