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Tonka last won the day on August 15 2015

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  1. Tonka

    KC-46A Info

    Key words being "ton of money" It is freaking expensive to modify airplanes. Especially FAA certified ones.
  2. Tonka

    Herk Down

    Im no expert in human physiology... but i would imagine/speculate the forces involve would be incapacitating. i dont know what the force required to liberate the whole prop assembly is, but it has to be high.
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    KC-46A Info

    In this case, no. Been too long since they built a boom and took too much for granted, designed it wrong. And they cheaped out on the vision system and they're not ready to fix either the right way... Yet. Somehow the AF really isn't to blame on this one.
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    Herk Down

    For those of us with a safety shop that doesn't believe in using the safety process to prevent mishap and won't let you read mishap reports: https://www.militarytimes.com/2018/12/05/investigation-blames-air-force-and-navy-for-systemic-failures-in-fatal-marine-corps-c-130-crash-that-killed-16/ The horrific KC-130T plane crash that killed 15 Marines and a sailor last summer was caused by a deteriorating propeller blade that was corroded when it entered an Air Force maintenance depot in 2011, but workers there failed to fix it and sent it back to the fleet unrepaired. This neglect allowed a routine corrosion problem to metastasize into a crack that went undetected for years until a mundane cross-country transport mission ended in flames. On July 10, 2017, that worn-down blade finally failed and came loose from the propeller 20,000 feet above Mississippi farmland, as the Marine Corps Reserve plane was en route to California under the call sign “Yanky 72.” It shot into the side of the aging aircraft, one of the last 130Ts still flying, a model set to be retired in the next few years. The blade’s impact set off a cataclysm that killed everyone on board and left the aircraft in three pieces, creating inconsolable heartache for 16 military families and an inferno of wreckage scattered for miles.
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    KC-130 and F/A-18 crash off Iwakuni

  6. Tonka

    CLASSIC: De Motivational Poster Contest!

    nah, i understand... you failed to read the full meme, or see the last half page of posts. And i qualified it with "not complaining"... thats like saying, "no offense, but" you can get away with anything after that.
  7. Tonka

    CLASSIC: De Motivational Poster Contest!

    Not complaining...but
  8. Tonka

    Air Traffic Control (ATC) Q&A

    wow... she was struggling worse then other reports made it sound. That's terrible... hope she is ok. Not sure if I would follow some of those calls, but I guess I've heard worse... however, usually OCONUS.
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    Air Traffic Control (ATC) Q&A

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-probe-why-las-vegas-airport-controller-slurred-words-went-n935081?fbclid=IwAR1PHwQs3zA3e4WE78gsUuwyPyN1I2CucVAN8YznfNlOu3lIEElqko7is5w Air traffic controller became incapacitated and went silent while working a night shift alone in the tower at busy McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas. Sounds like a stroke...
  10. Tonka

    C-130 down near Savannah, GA

    Thanks... I've gone to majcom safety and got rejected, ill try kirtland. i think my argument is based on trying to read between the lines of the report. ive seen channelized attention really get the best of people... take a step back from what we are used to calling pilot error and how we have fixed many things to correct airplane deficiencies because of pilot error... if enough pilots do it wrong, we call it pilot error and then fix the aircraft (safe gaurds on the J). Id rather us look at pilot error from the stand point of gross negligence when all the info is clearly known, time/conditions allowed... maybe not a valid argument here with too much speculation. I wonder how often do crews screw it up in the sim if it is a "surprise"? Yeah, they could of done things better... but is this an unique one or have we seen this before and will again?
  11. Tonka

    That Cyber Thread

    Maybe we improve the situation for everyone? Crazy i know.
  12. Tonka

    C-130 down near Savannah, GA

    I asked to see the SIB report and was told no, since I'm "currently" not flying that platform... and even though I tried to explain how I could use the knowledge attained to prevent mishaps (which, is of course the crux of safety investigations), I was told no... and that they could maybe give me a sanitized report (but a month later, I have nothing except the AIB). The idea that I should "know" what is in a SIB report, so that I can justify reading it is a foul... the fact that I could not read it attests to the brokenness of the system. I can read classified easier then I can read privileged. I don't blame the pilot, no offense to the legacy of this platform (the fvcker rocks at its mission, but I would say that is a testament to it's crews... take a look at figure 1, if you can overcome the craziness of that and still do your mission... you rock), but there is a reason we have modernized aircraft. Obviously speculation - but this mishap doesn't occur as easily on the J-model (yes, we as aviators can/will screw up in unique ways on other platforms) or other modern heavy aircraft (I also believe the C-5 modernization played a lot into that mishap, but I digress). Why? because the human factors put in to making life easier on the pilot is obvious in the J and other modern airliners (yes, they still have lots of issues)... If you've flown the legacy herc, it is easy to fly but hard to fly well (or fly precisely). There is no good feedback to the pilot, except the voice of 3-4 other people on the intercom... you are left with shitty instruments, shitty throttles, shitty flight controls , and hopefully a well-tuned seat-of-the-pants feel. I would wager I could hop in a J-model after not flying it for a few years and get it safely airborne all by myself... even at the peak of my knowledge in the E/H, no damn way I would even think about it. Humans are awesome, but there is a limit to what we can do. If you are dependent on hearing 3 peoples voices to fly, it is tough when things go south... we all process visual stuff faster than audible inputs. We have all been in the sim or other aircraft EP where we "Tune out" what is being said because we channelize on "analyzing the situation"... this guy put all his brain power on figuring out what the fvck was going on, he couldn't even maintain the aircraft, much less take the next step. What do you do when that happens? you fixate on something (i.e. an intuitive ADI, instruments, HUD data that has required A/S markers, turn/slip, flight path vector, etc) and you react to what you see (muscle memory), when you have to read or try to remember a greased number on a worn down TOLD card and then try to analyze an ADI/ASI designed 80 years ago... you already have 2 strikes against you. Non-herc bubbas look at figure 15, tell me you can figure that out when the heat is on. He put in rudder and put in too much (maybe), so he took it out then maybe the engine "recovers"? a bit and as he is taking some of that rudder out he feels like he needs to put opposite rudder in... This aint no fly-by-wire F-16, it is fully-reversible hydraulically-boosted set of flight controls, those inputs take time to move control surfaces, time to affect the aircraft, take time to give feedback to the pilot, ever hear of Pilot Induced Oscillation (PIO)...even with engine secured, he still doesn't realize how the plane is flying. I've seen guys get in PIOs, and it sucks the SA out of them because their brain can't make the mental model match what the aircraft is doing, so they spend a lot of time building a new model in their head... time he didn't have, yet he can't control that he is human. Props aren't easy, 4 props with speeder springs/fly weights designed in the early half of the last century are slow to respond, slow to have their inputs "felt", and affect the flying of the aircraft a lot more than any other aircraft out there today. Sorry... this is not on him, blame his training, blame the aircraft, the maintenance, and the acquisition process. He gave it everything he could, all his years of flying... his life... don't put this on him. Could he/they have done better-obviously yes, but my 8-year old can fly a manual 3-engine ILS in the C-17 sim (on her knees with nothing touching the rudders!), there is nothing remotely intuitive in an engine failure/surge at/near rotate for a C-130... I wonder if anyone on the AIB tried it in the sim. (of course we can't use an AIB to provide truth, because that causes litigation.)
  13. Job title weighed with performance in that job title, with a limit to the "score" based on the job... kind of like the Olympics, asst chief of squadron safety - highest possible score of 40 out of 100, Squadron commander highest possible score of 90, etc... when I look at people's record, strats were always secondary to job title (especially in a squadron of 50+ peers). Chief of Stan/Eval in a Sqd of 100 pilots, you probably rock... same yr group, everything else equal - asst secretary of mobility but you are CGO of the year - you probably don't rock as much.
  14. Tonka

    Russian Dry Dock Sinks

    That's a lot of loose lips.