Plenty of dudes nonvolled to RPAs are getting out due to "aircraft type/mission".

I file that under bullshit, instability, and bad leadership mostly.

3 hours ago, SurelySerious said:

I file that under bullshit, instability, and bad leadership mostly.

Those factors certainly don't help.  That said, if I was still flying 135s, I and my millions of dollars of training would still be in the Air Force.  I never even considered remaining in to fly MQ-9s.  0 AGL 8.0s with no TDY or deployments, fuck that.

6 hours ago, guineapigfury said:

Those factors certainly don't help.  That said, if I was still flying 135s, I and my millions of dollars of training would still be in the Air Force.  I never even considered remaining in to fly MQ-9s.  0 AGL 8.0s with no TDY or deployments, fuck that.

Valid. I can see non-vol RPAs being the one exception to my previous statements. 

For any helo bros out there, is there any official word on UPT-H (UHT) coming back and timeline in place? Thanks 

Anyone have an idea on when they might start dropping KC-46s out of UPT?

Anyone have an idea on when they might start dropping KC-46s out of UPT?

We don't know when they'll start dropping them out of the Boeing factory, let alone UPT.

On 4/4/2017 at 5:14 AM, norskman said:

For any helo bros out there, is there any official word on UPT-H (UHT) coming back and timeline in place? Thanks 

SUPT-H is already a thing. I'm there now. Do you mean UPT straight to Rucker for rotary guys (skip T6)? If so then yes, we heard recently it's being discussed seriously, timeline within the next year or possibly sooner if they pull the trigger. But being aware of the capacity constraints here at the squadron I'm not sure how realistic it would be for us to fulfill that mandate. The primary contractor who hires our civilian IPs and runs the academics is scrambling to figure out how they might do it and there are lots of concerns from the Air Force side (including having to buy new TH's, what to do with students with no baseline airsense or instrument training from T6, etc).

1 hour ago, SPAWNmaster said:

SUPT-H is already a thing. I'm there now. Do you mean UPT straight to Rucker for rotary guys (skip T6)? If so then yes, we heard recently it's being discussed seriously, timeline within the next year or possibly sooner if they pull the trigger. But being aware of the capacity constraints here at the squadron I'm not sure how realistic it would be for us to fulfill that mandate. The primary contractor who hires our civilian IPs and runs the academics is scrambling to figure out how they might do it and there are lots of concerns from the Air Force side (including having to buy new TH's, what to do with students with no baseline airsense or instrument training from T6, etc).

We were briefed this is the new COA being implemented at our ops unit. What's the consensus at the 23rd? I assume more iron and  flesh? AD or contractors bearing the brunt? 

12 hours ago, norskman said:

We were briefed this is the new COA being implemented at our ops unit. What's the consensus at the 23rd? I assume more iron and  flesh? AD or contractors bearing the brunt? 

That conversation's above me but I know we are not ready for it and I have heard there is no plan yet.

Talked to a Helo FAIP at water survival, he had also heard about it but seemed to share the same sentiment that they weren't really sure how it would work. Briefs well on paper, seems to have worked back in the day, sure as hell works for the Army but who knows...

On 3/31/2017 at 0:19 PM, BE36 said:

KCBM 17-15 Track Select:

6- T38 (1 Guard 3 International 2 AD)

16- T1s 

0 Helos 

It's totally possible I have no idea what I'm talking about, but doesn't that seem like a low about of 38s for AD? Do these numbers reflect any studs being sent to Shepherd, or is it really just 2 guys got 38s and 16 got 1s? 

On 4/11/2017 at 11:29 AM, takingamessage said:

It's totally possible I have no idea what I'm talking about, but doesn't that seem like a low about of 38s for AD? Do these numbers reflect any studs being sent to Shepherd, or is it really just 2 guys got 38s and 16 got 1s? 

Yes, only 2 AD studs got 38s. We went through an extended period of bad wx and sub par maintenance. That combined with higher numbers of 38 studs has led to the pipeline getting backed up.

Edited April 14, 20178 yr by Rooster

1 hour ago, Rooster said:

Yes, only 2 AD studs got 38s. We went through an extended period of bad wx and sub par maintenance. That combined with higher numbers of 38 studs has led to the pipeline getting backed up.

Serious question(s): Bad Wx and down jets can decide mission/airframe for the next 10 years for an AD stud?

Or would you guys have sent more to -38's if you felt maybe 3 or 4 guys were much stronger swimmers than the rest?

Edited April 14, 20178 yr by tk1313

Bad Wx and down jets can decide mission/airframe for the next 10 years for an AD stud?

Timing and luck are 90% of everything in the AF. This is a solid part of that.



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2 hours ago, tk1313 said:

Serious question(s): Bad Wx and down jets can decide mission/airframe for the next 10 years for an AD stud?

Or would you guys have sent more to -38's if you felt maybe 3 or 4 guys were much stronger swimmers than the rest?

 Yes and the quality of student doesn't matter.  Faces in spaces.

Columbus

F-35 
-135 bham
-17 tcm
Hc-130 patrick
C-21 scott
F-16 holloman
C-17 tcm
Cv-22 cannon
T-6 cbm
-135 ang
-16 hmn
-135 ang
-130 lrf
-16 hmn
-17 chs
-15 semour johnson

what I can recall

FR 17-06

CV-22 Cannon
CV-22 Hurlburt
HH-60 Nellis
HH-60 Moody
HH-60 Patrick (Reserves)
H-1N FE Warren
H-1N Minot

Word on the street is that Kirtland's caught up on the Osprey pipeline and -22 pilot production will be ramping up with the drops coming back to Rucker. We went from nothing in months to two in one night, was a good night for the 23rd!

Edited April 15, 20178 yr by SPAWNmaster

DLF 17-08

T-38

3 x F-16 (1 guard)

1 x T-6 FAIP

T-1

CV-22

3 x U-28

2 x EC-130

KC-135 (guard)

4 x C-17 (2 x reserve)

T-1 FAIP

C-130 (guard)

 

Might have been a couple I missed. But that is the majority of it.

8 hours ago, tk1313 said:

Serious question(s): Bad Wx and down jets can decide mission/airframe for the next 10 years for an AD stud?

Or would you guys have sent more to -38's if you felt maybe 3 or 4 guys were much stronger swimmers than the rest?

Pretty much...yeah it sucks.

It has nothing to do with how capable a stud is. There's only a finite number of spots based on needs of USAF and how many the sqdrn can handle.

Last class, that was 2AD. Ten classes ago, it was 6AD. Ten classes from now it'll be another random number. 

END 17-08

-38

x4 F-16

x2 A-10 (one Guard, one AD)

x1 F-15C

x1 F-15E

x1 T-38 FAIP

x1 KC-135

-1

x3 C-17's to Charleston

Couple of KC-135's

AC-130U Hurlburt

Couple of Guard guys to -130's

CBM 38s:

3x Vipers

1x F-35

1x F-15E

ENJJPT 17-05

Active:

4x F-16

1x F-15C

2x F-15E

1x A-10

1x F-35

1x MC-130H

1x T-38 FAIP

 

ANG:

A-10

F-16

 

Foreign:

2x Eurofighter

2x Tornado

17-09 drop  CBM

-17 Guard

-eurofighter (Saudi)

-EC-130 DM

-38 FAIP

-17 TCM

-RC-26 ANG

-17 CHS

-17 TCM REserves

-135 Mcconnell

--130J Dyess

-130 nevada ANG

-135 Macdill

-rc-135 offut

-12 Elmo

-awacs tinker

-T-1 FAIP

-A-10 

-HC-130 

-f-15 SJ

 

Edited May 6, 20178 yr by Mox

Anyone know the Laughlin drop for 17-08 38s?

2 minutes ago, Spaceballs said:

Anyone know the Laughlin drop for 17-08 38s?

Fighters