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  • Yes...and shockingly, got picked up 1 APZ with a 5/10 push line and P on the PRF. Sometimes there is justice in the system.

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Also curious as to that.  I went to the MLR with a good wing Strat and a MAJCOM win for an award...came back with the dreaded P checked...so there's that. 

I think our WG/CC said 70% across the board, but I'm only about 90% sure I'm remembering correctly.

We had a 62% rate at my base which sounds about right.  For some reason I was thinking historically it was 75% DP.  Wasn't sure if the lower rate was indicative of a lower overall rate that we should expect this year as well.  

Also curious as to that.  I went to the MLR with a good wing Strat and a MAJCOM win for an award...came back with the dreaded P checked...so there's that. 

Shoulda POC'd the Annual Christmas Party and CFC.  DP!

Shoulda POC'd the Annual Christmas Party and CFC.  DP!

Touche.  Wg/CC stratted me top 5 percent.  MLR deemed me bottom 40 percent.  Makes sense.  Good system. 

How many met the board at your wing?  It's strange that you'd be in the top 5%, but your WG/CC only had enough DPs for the top 4%.

2 of us from the Wing met the board.  Wg/CC needs 3 to award 1 DP.  Way down this year for whatever reason.  Wg/CC had no DPs...I did get the super P, but obviously didn't score that great at the MLR...which makes me nervous for the board. 

How many met the board at your wing?  It's strange that you'd be in the top 5%, but your WG/CC only had enough DPs for the top 4%.

2 of us from the Wing met the board.  Wg/CC needs 3 to award 1 DP.  Way down this year for whatever reason.  Wg/CC had no DPs...I did get the super P, but obviously didn't score that great at the MLR...which makes me nervous for the board. 

I'm sure you will be ok. You may even be the only person on this Maj's board to get a school slot without a DP. That's a bizarre situation you guys are in at your base.

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I'm sure you will be ok. You may even be the only person on this Maj's board to get a school slot without a DP. That's a bizarre situation you guys are in at your base.

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^This^

One of my close friends got a P from his MLR for his 2BTZ to Lt Col board and still got picked up 2 below. The MLR board got it wrong, the promotion board got it right, and it boosted my confidence in the system.

Wg/CC stratted me top 5 percent.  MLR deemed me bottom 40 percent

2 of us from the Wing met the board.

 

This may be your trouble--whatever metric the Wing King used for "top 5%," you were really either #1 / 2 or #2 / 2 to the board.  Shitty system, I agree....

  • 1 month later...

Major's board is complete. I'm aware the list has to be approved by the man, but any ideas when the results will be released?  

Major's board is complete. I'm aware the list has to be approved by the man, but any ideas when the results will be released?  

Go myPers and search "promotions". Somewhere in there will be a link for board status as it hits the review milestones. 3ish months generally. Any date given is just a shifting target.

Good luck!

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Go myPers and search "promotions". Somewhere in there will be a link for board status as it hits the review milestones. 3ish months generally. Any date given is just a shifting target.

 

Good luck!

"Mid December" according to MyPers.

  • 5 weeks later...

Anyone have experience declining promotion or writing to a board to request non-selection?  I'm approaching the end of my active duty career and am trying to set myself up to get hired by ANG or AFRC.  Unfortunately, I am late-to-rate and stationed overseas so my O-5 IPZ board meets before either my UPT ADSC or DEROS expire.  I've heard that it is tough to get hired by ANG or AFRC as an O-5 so I'm looking at mitigation options.

I just read (CTRL+F'd) AFI36-2501 and declining seems to be fairly simple and doesn't appear to have any direct negative repercussions.  If this is true it seems to be a decent option for me but the tiny bit of Blue Kool-Aid left in my blood is making me feel like this could cheat someone who wants to stick around out of selection.

Experience, thoughts, ideas, spears?

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You seem to have the info you need. A letter to the board asking to not be promoted will, more likely than not, give you the result you want. It will make you ineligible for separation pay in almost all cases...see the AFI.

A promotion and pinning on does not carry an ADSC. But may have kept someone else off the list.

BL: do what you feel comfortable with.

"Mid December" according to MyPers.

Now showing "Mid January".  Is it normal for the target to shift that much?  But, hey, at least everyone didn't already have to wait a year longer than normal already.

Now showing "Mid January".  Is it normal for the target to shift that much?  But, hey, at least everyone didn't already have to wait a year longer than normal already.

Yes, my last board results shifted 2.5 months. It is very common, especially when the results span a substantial holiday period.

Anyone have experience declining promotion or writing to a board to request non-selection?  I'm approaching the end of my active duty career and am trying to set myself up to get hired by ANG or AFRC.  Unfortunately, I am late-to-rate and stationed overseas so my O-5 IPZ board meets before either my UPT ADSC or DEROS expire.  I've heard that it is tough to get hired by ANG or AFRC as an O-5 so I'm looking at mitigation options.

I just read (CTRL+F'd) AFI36-2501 and declining seems to be fairly simple and doesn't appear to have any direct negative repercussions.  If this is true it seems to be a decent option for me but the tiny bit of Blue Kool-Aid left in my blood is making me feel like this could cheat someone who wants to stick around out of selection.

Experience, thoughts, ideas, spears?

And finally, to the poster who asked about writing a do not promote me letter in some thread: my panel had several, some we honored, some we ignored...the ones with true humanitarian reasons were honored. The others were seen as "I quit!" whining, and if the record otherwise merited it, those folks got put on the promotion list. In this way, as we were instructed by Secaf, the Best Qualified got promoted...not just the best qualified of those that wanted it. Finally, senior raters were sometimes ignored: DPs didn't make the cut, etc

If you're planning to write a letter, tell your commander before your PRF is written.

Don't know your circumstances, but turning down lt col is a tough call...hope it works out for you!

Now showing "Mid January".  Is it normal for the target to shift that much?  But, hey, at least everyone didn't already have to wait a year longer than normal already.

Confirmed, what a bummer. Was hoping for a nice Christmas present. Should have known the AF would do that. 

"I quit!"

"Promote that man!"

I know that isn't what you said, but I laughed anyway. :)

Now showing "Mid January".  Is it normal for the target to shift that much?  But, hey, at least everyone didn't already have to wait a year longer than normal already.

Funny how this year's board met almost four months earlier than last years, but the results will only be a month earlier.  Based on increments for the current group, there will be some in the next with a very short wait for pin-on.

I know that isn't what you said, but I laughed anyway. :)

Lol...you're not far off!!! Lots of opinions. Lots of discussion for each and every split and unusual situation (DPs undergoing discipline, DNPs 5APZ with fantastic records and awards/decs and real leadership in the record, solid records with great combat experiences but mediocre SR strats, etc) .

So, yeah, kinda like that.

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