June 28, 20178 yr Found this in the Personnel Subcommittee's Markup of the 2018 NDAA: "Section 6XX—Increase in Maximum Amount of Aviation Bonus for 12-Month Period of Obligated Service This section would amend section 334(c)(1)(B) of title 37, United States Code, to increase the statutory limits for the aviation retention bonus to $50,000 and allow the Secretary concerned the flexibility to increase the aviation incentive pay limit set forth in regulations issued by the Secretary of Defense under section 374 of title 37, United States Code. The Secretary of Defense should revise applicable regulations as required."
June 28, 20178 yr 4 hours ago, HU&W said: I think the short bonus may exist to give the perception of fixing the bonus take rate. Take rate was so low...increased take rate 300%; promote now! I think the short bonus is a "stop the bleeding" measure. Because it's proven that the AF won't meet long-term retention goals with the 5 or 9 yr bonuses, then the short term bonus hopefully keeps enough dudes around to maintain current readiness, while planning for future force structure.
June 28, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, 3PAARO said: I think the short bonus is a "stop the bleeding" measure. Because it's proven that the AF won't meet long-term retention goals with the 5 or 9 yr bonuses, then the short term bonus hopefully keeps enough dudes around to maintain current readiness, while planning for future force structure. I really hope that the leadership knows this won't work. I am watching entire year groups punch out . At one base, in one squadron alone, I've heard that 9 of 12 bonus eligibles are separating after their 10 year ADSC...all instructors if the rumor mill is accurate.
June 28, 20178 yr 2 hours ago, FourFans130 said: I really hope that the leadership knows this won't work. I am watching entire year groups punch out . At one base, in one squadron alone, I've heard that 9 of 12 bonus eligibles are separating after their 10 year ADSC...all instructors if the rumor mill is accurate. I agree it won't work, just stating what I think is the reasoning behind it. We're handing out water wings as the Titanic sinks.
June 28, 20178 yr 6 hours ago, FourFans130 said: I really hope that the leadership knows this won't work. I am watching entire year groups punch out . At one base, in one squadron alone, I've heard that 9 of 12 bonus eligibles are separating after their 10 year ADSC...all instructors if the rumor mill is accurate. Truth.. Last time I was at Altus a few years ago my EP kept checking his phone during full stops. I finally asked him about it and he was waiting to hear if his VSP was approved. Apparently they had 15 or 20 guys apply in the 58th. The AF lost some true talent from that pool of IPs. Edited June 28, 20178 yr by MDDieselPilot
June 29, 20178 yr 22 hours ago, g2s said: 18 months left before I hit 20 years, so it was a no-brainer. Sooo....Afghanistan then?
June 29, 20178 yr 23 hours ago, g2s said: I took the one year bonus, $30k. Paid in two installments: 25+5. First installment paid today: $18.75k, so taxed at a 25% rate. Second install should arrive in the next few weeks. 18 months left before I hit 20 years, so it was a no-brainer. From submitting my app to the first chunk of money in the bank was 21 days. Why the two installments as opposed to one?
June 29, 20178 yr When this summer does the flight pay raise happen??Anyone have any insight on which year groups will be changed and how much?I would assume it's only gonna be the over 6 and over 14, since that's the demographic they're targeting for retention.Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
June 29, 20178 yr Anyone have any insight on which year groups will be changed and how much?I would assume it's only gonna be the over 6 and over 14, since that's the demographic they're targeting for retention.Sent from my SM-G920V using TapatalkI wouldn't be surprised to see the lower year groups see a bump as well. ACIP is paid to RPA pilots and Army WOs as well, and they don't have a ten-year commitment.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
June 29, 20178 yr When this summer does the flight pay raise happen??What is this you say? I've heard nothing of this. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums
June 29, 20178 yr What is this you say? I've heard nothing of this. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network ForumsIt was mentioned in the AvB announcement: "The Air Force is also looking at additional monetary incentives for aviation, especially those targeted at mid-career aviators. The fiscal 2017 NDAA provided authorization to increase Aviation Incentive Pay, commonly known as monthly flight pay, which the service plans to increase this summer."Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
June 29, 20178 yr 6 minutes ago, ihtfp06 said: It was mentioned in the AvB announcement: "The Air Force is also looking at additional monetary incentives for aviation, especially those targeted at mid-career aviators. The fiscal 2017 NDAA provided authorization to increase Aviation Incentive Pay, commonly known as monthly flight pay, which the service plans to increase this summer." Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yep this...why aren't people talking about this? It's summer now and I haven't heard anything but I hope this happens soon
June 29, 20178 yr 23 hours ago, Mikey Donuts said: Sooo....Afghanistan then? I'll be posting again if that happens to warn the masses.
June 29, 20178 yr 22 hours ago, neontico said: Why the two installments as opposed to one? Something to do with the pay systems. There was a blurb in the message I received...words, words, words. I didn't care enough to research it.
June 29, 20178 yr 3 hours ago, pilotguy said: Yep this...why aren't people talking about this? It's summer now and I haven't heard anything but I hope this happens soon Probably because the pay bump for 14 year guys will be less than a typical yearly bump in pay due to inflation, and likely no better for the 6 year level. I mean, I'll take it, but $160 bump is a fancy dinner somewhere.
June 30, 20178 yr Or maybe no one is talking about it because the AF has zero credibility for things like this. I'll believe it when I see it on my LES and it's more than a $50 pay jump.
June 30, 20178 yr Latest from the CAF FB page says that the flight pay bump probably won't happen until October. They've been talking about this since February, but it's moving at the speed of government I guess.
June 30, 20178 yr 18 minutes ago, Guardian said: No way it happens. It better. I budgeted the financing of my 2018 Maserati based on the goodwill of our leadership and the increase in my flight pay. Fingers crossed...
June 30, 20178 yr Flight pay needs to be approximately $1250 (from $650) and $1615 ($840) to correct for inflation since 1990. I expect it'll go to around $750 and $1000. The raise will show us how seriously management is taking this "crisis"...
June 30, 20178 yr What do you mean? We already know they aren't serious by the meager raise in the bonus. And those 10 pilots who told congress that money doesn't matter to them affected the rest of us for the bonus not being more like 50-60k. So what makes you think all of the sudden they will take it serious and increase flight pay?Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums
June 30, 20178 yr 11 hours ago, FUSEPLUG said: It better. I budgeted the financing of my 2018 Maserati based on the goodwill of our leadership and the increase in my flight pay. Fingers crossed... I already put money down on our new swimming pool
June 30, 20178 yr 31 minutes ago, Guardian said: And those 10 pilots who told congress that money doesn't matter to them affected the rest of us for the bonus not being more like 50-60k. Yea, it's definitely the fault of a few random captains that the AF undervalues pilots. I'm sure congress was just about to give us 60$k annual bonuses till those guys fucked it up...
June 30, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, BFM this said: I already put money down on our new swimming pool Jelly of the Month club for you.
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