The discussion of heavy drivers receiving  a $48k to $60k a year bonus is dead. I believe $35k is unlikely based on the above statement. 
 
 

How many mobility guys are going to accept 25k/yr if the 11U/18Us are pulling down 35k and there's no guarantee AFPC won't reassign you to droids?


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1 hour ago, ihtfp06 said:

How many mobility guys are going to accept 25k/yr if the 11U/18Us are pulling down 35k and there's no guarantee AFPC won't reassign you to droids?

DoD simply can't keep up.  A couple airlines just approved raises bigger than the debated ACP bonuses.  Without having to sign a contract.  The only hope for AF pilot retention is another recession.

17 hours ago, sqwatch said:

My take on this whole election- unless you're celebrating Mattis as secdef, a republican lock on SCOTUS for a generation, an AG who will crack down on hippies who stop traffic or liberal anxiety in general, the rest will be more of the same.

Honestly, that might be enough to keep a grin on my face for the next 8 years.

As for the rest of you nerds, I'm not impressed by your sesquipedalian prose.

Edited December 7, 20168 yr by tk1313

As a $25k bonus taker (I had my reasons) I'll be the first to predict that a targeted $35k bonus will cause rates to drop across the board. It won't be enough to keep those that are targeted, and it'll further alienate those deemed not worthy of the raise. I can't believe that they still don't get it. ALL pilot retention is in crisis mode, not just the ones highlighted by the manning spreadsheets.


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2 hours ago, tk1313 said:

sesquipedalian prose.

Another one I have to look up, quit!

sesquipedalian prose? WTF does that mean.

That's why I'm not worthy of a bigger bonus.

I still think the theory that makes the most sense is that the updated bonus was designed to make stop loss more palatable to Congress. It allows the Air Force to say, "See, we tried to give them more money! There's no other option except for stop loss!" There's no way that anyone actually believes that even $50k/yr solves the retention problem, but it would give leadership an "out" in 2018 (the same year that RAND predicted a stop loss).

6 hours ago, tk1313 said:

Honestly, that might be enough to keep a grin on my face for the next 8 years.

As for the rest of you nerds, I'm not impressed by your sesquipedalian prose.

Well played

4 hours ago, Oldtanker said:

sesquipedalian prose? WTF does that mean.

That's why I'm not worthy of a bigger bonus.

Exactly my thoughts, I didn't think I was dumb, EE degree, fighter pilot, LtCol,  and words I've never heard, and now I'm ignit 

Edited December 8, 20168 yr by matmacwc

9 hours ago, matmacwc said:

I didn't think I was dumb, EE degree, fighter pilot, LtCol,  and words I've never heard, and now I'm ignit 

That's like saying YOU don't think you're a chick because you have two arms, two legs and a butthole. No correlation - you're still a chick. 

35 minutes ago, ViperStud said:

That's like saying YOU don't think you're a chick because you have two arms, two legs and a butthole. No correlation - you're still a chick. 

Are you trying to say he/she is callipygian?  

 

 

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

Are you trying to say he/she is callipygian?  

 

 

Nah, not really. I've known matmac for a decade or so; he's more of a gynandromorph.  I think the WC is for Woman Clone. 

7 minutes ago, ViperStud said:

Nah, not really. I've known matmac for a decade or so;

You are gasconading about that fact?

Jeez, guys... Get the ruler out and measure already.

 

The words of course, not the other thing.

I hate you all.

Realize the fundamental error of regarding such functional notions with hatred is not quite equivalent to an important distinction in vocabulary use. A consequence of the approach you seem to be taking is that any associated supporting elements for your distaste are likely different from any abstract underlying order. In the discussion of presumptive confabulations, an important property of such with respect to the ultimate standard is the the accuracy of any proposed grammar. Comparing the earlier examples with their parasitic gap counterparts, we see that the speaker-hearer's linguistic intuition suffices to account for the strong generative capacity of your emotion. Note that the appearance of parasitic gaps in domains relatively inaccessible to ordinary extraction is, apparently, determined by nondistinctness in the sense of distinctive feature theory.

I think this might be my favorite post of this forum, next to the NSFW picture thread from the Squadron Bar of course


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This is what you sound like to me.

 

 

7 minutes ago, matmacwc said:

This is what you sound like to me.

 

OMG! This is how an engineer describes how he had sex the night before

Edited December 8, 20168 yr by fire4effect
spellun

8 minutes ago, fire4effect said:

 

OMG! This is how an engineer describes how he had sex the night before

Yes, an engineer who just lost his virginity.

Behold:

 

5 hours ago, gearpig said:

Realize the fundamental error of regarding such functional notions with hatred is not quite equivalent to an important distinction in vocabulary use. A consequence of the approach you seem to be taking is that any associated supporting elements for your distaste are likely different from any abstract underlying order. In the discussion of presumptive confabulations, an important property of such with respect to the ultimate standard is the the accuracy of any proposed grammar. Comparing the earlier examples with their parasitic gap counterparts, we see that the speaker-hearer's linguistic intuition suffices to account for the strong generative capacity of your emotion. Note that the appearance of parasitic gaps in domains relatively inaccessible to ordinary extraction is, apparently, determined by nondistinctness in the sense of distinctive feature theory.

Schofield's Quote...

On ‎12‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 3:51 PM, gearpig said:

Realize the fundamental error of regarding such functional notions with hatred is not quite equivalent to an important distinction in vocabulary use. A consequence of the approach you seem to be taking is that any associated supporting elements for your distaste are likely different from any abstract underlying order. In the discussion of presumptive confabulations, an important property of such with respect to the ultimate standard is the the accuracy of any proposed grammar. Comparing the earlier examples with their parasitic gap counterparts, we see that the speaker-hearer's linguistic intuition suffices to account for the strong generative capacity of your emotion. Note that the appearance of parasitic gaps in domains relatively inaccessible to ordinary extraction is, apparently, determined by nondistinctness in the sense of distinctive feature theory.

 

On 12/8/2016 at 0:51 PM, gearpig said:

Realize the fundamental error of regarding such functional notions with hatred is not quite equivalent to an important distinction in vocabulary use. A consequence of the approach you seem to be taking is that any associated supporting elements for your distaste are likely different from any abstract underlying order. In the discussion of presumptive confabulations, an important property of such with respect to the ultimate standard is the the accuracy of any proposed grammar. Comparing the earlier examples with their parasitic gap counterparts, we see that the speaker-hearer's linguistic intuition suffices to account for the strong generative capacity of your emotion. Note that the appearance of parasitic gaps in domains relatively inaccessible to ordinary extraction is, apparently, determined by nondistinctness in the sense of distinctive feature theory.

In summary,

 

It sounds like the bonus annual max was moved to 35K in the final bill passed? 

It's down in section 616 of the text

https://www.billtrack50.com/BillDetail/743465