9 minutes ago, GrndPndr said:

I can think of a couple of reasons.

It should be painfully obvious for any base with high value assets, 

Random but why hasn’t the USAF built many underground hangars like our colleagues in the desert?

10 hours ago, Desayuno said:

Random but why hasn’t the USAF built many underground hangars like our colleagues in the desert?

Because we prioritized money on the below. At least 3 flying at any one time IVO Chinese territory, mostly undetectable across multiple spectrums. Most Chinese reports of UAPs are this or the F-35s associated with it.  Bottom line, have to prioritize funds somewhere. 
 

 

FAFO Xi…

 

 

 

 

On 10/11/2024 at 11:57 PM, HeyEng said:

The War Zone is reporting that Langley is installing anti-drone netting around the enclosures for the F-22 to help combat drone intrusions at and around the base. 
In addition to being a physical barrier, the netting is assumed to help protect the aircraft from electro-optical snooping as well. 
It’s still curious as to why Langley is the base being targeted for these drone swarms, maybe its proximity to the ocean?

I think you answered your own question?

3 hours ago, brabus said:

Because we prioritized money on the below. At least 3 flying at any one time IVO Chinese territory, mostly undetectable across multiple spectrums. Most Chinese reports of UAPs are this or the F-35s associated with it.  Bottom line, have to prioritize funds somewhere. 
 

 

FAFO Xi…

 

 

 

 

Dude! OPSEC!

The WSJ take on the situation, with the added bonus of a humorous story on the "worst spy ever," Fengyun Shi!

Mystery Drones Swarmed a U.S. Military Base for 17 Days. The Pentagon Is Stumped.

U.S. officials don’t know who is behind the drones that have flown unhindered over sensitive national-security sites—or how to stop them

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/drones-military-pentagon-defense-331871f4

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1 hour ago, M2 said:

The WSJ take on the situation, with the added bonus of a humorous story on the "worst spy ever," Fengyun Shi!

Mystery Drones Swarmed a U.S. Military Base for 17 Days. The Pentagon Is Stumped.

U.S. officials don’t know who is behind the drones that have flown unhindered over sensitive national-security sites—or how to stop them

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/drones-military-pentagon-defense-331871f4

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Great resource I didn't know was out there

4 hours ago, frog said:

I think you answered your own question?

What I meant is why is Langley targeted at the exclusion of other bases?

Is it because Langley is near the water and these drones (which witnesses are saying are as large as cars) are operating off of ships and more inland bases are out of reach or launching and recovering these drones over land are not practical without getting caught?

If so I would think you would see many Naval installations targeted as well. And for that matter why stop at installing anti-drone netting at just Langley? I would think that any base that has F-22, F-35, B-2, etc. should have anti-drone protection installed.

The military/govt should be shitting their pants at the threat of drones.  I'm not saying anything groundbreaking here or advertising a capability that isn't being used a thousand times a day in the current conflict, but $100k and ten dudes spread out stateside would bring our home station AF to its knees. 

5 hours ago, HeyEng said:

What I meant is why is Langley targeted at the exclusion of other bases?

Who said they were the only ones? The media and some blogging fanboys? Adversary surveillance is a problem all over the place. 

17 hours ago, uhhello said:

The military/govt should be shitting their pants at the threat of drones.  I'm not saying anything groundbreaking here or advertising a capability that isn't being used a thousand times a day in the current conflict, but $100k and ten dudes spread out stateside would bring our home station AF to its knees.

Are we not doing phrasing anymore?

The military/govt should be shitting their pants at the threat of drones.  I'm not saying anything groundbreaking here or advertising a capability that isn't being used a thousand times a day in the current conflict, but $100k and ten dudes spread out stateside would bring our home station AF to its knees. 

We’ve got a team of young troopers whose sole job is acting as a red force with home made drones and going around showing people the vulnerabilities. They built this stuff in a basement with YouTube training, a 600 dollar 3D printer, and about 5k of budget. Now they’re flying around FPVs with droppers on them to drop little 3D printed chalk bombs.

If you haven’t had the opportunity go out near one of these seagull sized little bastards when they are flying. You can’t see them beyond about 300 feet unless they are against naked sky, and at the speed they move you notice it just in time to look up at what would be death. It’s a pretty amazing and terrifying experience.

The stuff DGI makes is even scarier. 2 minutes of playing with it and I was flying around 2-3 km away from where I was across corn fields at 5 feet doing 50-60mph with almost no effort and full HD video. The drone i was using is 600 bucks off the shelf.


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22 hours ago, brabus said:

Who said they were the only ones? The media and some blogging fanboys? Adversary surveillance is a problem all over the place. 

Wait, there’s been other large scale drone swarms over bases lasting over two weeks that required NASA surveillance aircraft to track them?

Do you think you’re going to get a specific answer here?

On 10/16/2024 at 10:04 PM, brabus said:

Do you think you’re going to get a specific answer here?

Actually I have found some good information on News Nation. In additional to Langley, there were several Navy bases near the area that were targeted as well.
Despite the size of the drones they flew in a precise synchronized formation (some sort of data link synthetic radar?)

Some appeared to be quadcopter style drones while others were fixed wing and probably launched off a ship out at sea.

Edited October 20, 20241 yr by HeyEng

It appears England is getting the drone swarm treatment with Mindenhall and Lakenheath seeing nightly incursions. Also in Arizona Air Force pilots are reporting drone encounters at military ranges with one being the size of a Reaper!

Drone warfare is scary as phuk. We are in the future.  

Kill Chain is a great and depressing book

There was also a drone swarm over New Jersey with witnesses claiming car sized drones were flying all night long.

I doubt they were quite that big and it would be hard to accurately judge the size of something flying at night but it does seem that these are not hobbyists sized drones and I wonder how long even a large sized quadcopter type of drone could stay aloft. or are these fixed wing drones?

Also while the operators could be anywhere, these things still have to be recovered, refueled (or recharged?), servicing and maintained, etc.

You would also think that sooner or later a bearing would seize up, a linkage would break, a signal lost and one of these things would crash to earth.

3 hours ago, HeyEng said:

There was also a drone swarm over New Jersey with witnesses claiming car sized drones were flying all night long.

I doubt they were quite that big and it would be hard to accurately judge the size of something flying at night but it does seem that these are not hobbyists sized drones and I wonder how long even a large sized quadcopter type of drone could stay aloft. or are these fixed wing drones?

Also while the operators could be anywhere, these things still have to be recovered, refueled (or recharged?), servicing and maintained, etc.

You would also think that sooner or later a bearing would seize up, a linkage would break, a signal lost and one of these things would crash to earth.

And why are they (from what videos i've seen) flying around with position lights on 

1 hour ago, uhhello said:

And why are they (from what videos i've seen) flying around with position lights on 

And non-standard (I.e red/green) lights at that?

The who thing is weird! If it was a major power doing some sort of synthetic radar reconnaissance of major bases for intelligence you would think they would be blacked out.
Yet this seems too big for just some miscreant drone hobbyists.
As I mentioned in the beginning of this thread the Langley incursions were supposedly imaged by NASA WB-57F planes but the results of that imagery and where the drones were heading to/coming from are completely unknown. 
If one image of the type of drone released it might help in figuring out who might have made it. 

We were very quick to point out China’s involvement in the ballon over N.C. 
(but very silent in the others we shot down) as well as pointing the finger at Russia with the attempted DHL bombings but are very reluctant in these increasing drone incursions. 

2 hours ago, HeyEng said:

And non-standard (I.e red/green) lights at that?

The who thing is weird! If it was a major power doing some sort of synthetic radar reconnaissance of major bases for intelligence you would think they would be blacked out.
Yet this seems too big for just some miscreant drone hobbyists.
As I mentioned in the beginning of this thread the Langley incursions were supposedly imaged by NASA WB-57F planes but the results of that imagery and where the drones were heading to/coming from are completely unknown. 
If one image of the type of drone released it might help in figuring out who might have made it. 

We were very quick to point out China’s involvement in the ballon over N.C. 
(but very silent in the others we shot down) as well as pointing the finger at Russia with the attempted DHL bombings but are very reluctant in these increasing drone incursions. 

Red/Green is standard on DJI products.  Not sure of anything else. 

Just straight up lying to get us into a conflict prior to January 20th.

 

these fucking boomer congressmen/senators can fuck off

 

I mean if they opened an internet browser they would see open source imagery of the Iranian ‘mothership’ sitting in port as of two days ago. 

Edited December 12, 20241 yr by uhhello