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[HeloDude]

24 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said:

Outstanding!  I formally request a quibbling emoji.

You know, TDS goes both ways, as in one so deranged by Trump love, you can't think rationally or objectively anymore.

As for the topic, what are the benefits of a privatized ATC vs GS employees?  Wouldn't it cost more because now someone is now making profit?  OK, so ban profits.  Now that CEO writes his contract to make $5M.  Does said private company have the same oversight and obligation to the FAA/Congress on accountability?  Would said company have free reign to set fees, charge more for foreign carriers, cut services to some class D muni, etc?  Would that mean no taxpayer funds, thus driving up ticket prices?  Would my taxes go down? (I already know thats a fat No).  How do you charge that Cirrus doing 30 T/Gs for training?  What about the soon to be electrics?  They don't buy gas, so how do they pay to play? Do pilots pay by the landing or the vector?  Would this drive more VFR flying to not talk to ATC/file a flight plan?  Can ATC still give a pilot a ph number to call or is more like a security guard pulling you over for speeding?  Most importantly, what effect will this have on safety.  And this is stuff off the top of my head.

My point is, some things need to be govt, especially items that serve a broad public.  While it doesn't mean it can't work, waiving your hand and saying privatize it doesn't equal lower costs to the tax payers.

If Trump does something I like, I say it, if not, I say I don’t like it just the same.

As for privatizing vs government employee…as we are seeing, it’s a much, much easier to adjust the numbers with a contract employees vs government employees.  Just one example, which is all I need since the discussion is on shrinking the size of the federal workforce.
 

As for safety, was I trained more poorly with sim instructors who were contractors vs GS employees?  Was my life more at risk when I was flown on a rotator by a contracted company vs on a military jet?

[tac airlifter]

1 hour ago, disgruntledemployee said:

Outstanding!  I formally request a quibbling emoji.

You know, TDS goes both ways, as in one so deranged by Trump love, you can't think rationally or objectively anymore.

As for the topic, what are the benefits of a privatized ATC vs GS employees?  Wouldn't it cost more because now someone is now making profit?  OK, so ban profits.  Now that CEO writes his contract to make $5M.  Does said private company have the same oversight and obligation to the FAA/Congress on accountability?  Would said company have free reign to set fees, charge more for foreign carriers, cut services to some class D muni, etc?  Would that mean no taxpayer funds, thus driving up ticket prices?  Would my taxes go down? (I already know thats a fat No).  How do you charge that Cirrus doing 30 T/Gs for training?  What about the soon to be electrics?  They don't buy gas, so how do they pay to play? Do pilots pay by the landing or the vector?  Would this drive more VFR flying to not talk to ATC/file a flight plan?  Can ATC still give a pilot a ph number to call or is more like a security guard pulling you over for speeding?  Most importantly, what effect will this have on safety.  And this is stuff off the top of my head.

My point is, some things need to be govt, especially items that serve a broad public.  While it doesn't mean it can't work, waiving your hand and saying privatize it doesn't equal lower costs to the tax payers.

Bro I have to ask, are you this unpleasant in real life conversation?  I've never seen anything but an angry rant from you.  Sincerely I wish you the best.

[Banzai]

4 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

Bro I have to ask, are you this unpleasant in real life conversation?  I've never seen anything but an angry rant from you.  Sincerely I wish you the best.

Same bro, the condescension from you is palpable.

[tac airlifter]

1 hour ago, Banzai said:

Same bro, the condescension from you is palpable.

Sorry you feel that way.  Unlike many internet boards, my sense is here we have a minimum starting respect for each other based on our shared experience as mil aviators.  I trade barbs with others about ideas, but I think if you were walking by my house & it was on fire you'd probably help.  I would for you.  That's a LOT better than much of the political discourse nowadays; so if someone is constantly pissed it's not bad to mention it & wish them the best.  Cheers 

[nunya]

7 minutes ago, tac airlifter said:

if you were walking by my house & it was on fire you'd probably help

Only if you live with bqzip's mom. She calls me the fireman. I turn the hoes on.