January 15, 201411 yr Who knows. I did, as a matter of fact hear a 3-star use the same words regarding force shaping in a base-wide brief ("breathe, relax, this won't hurt a bit") so it sounds like standard talking points from the top.
January 15, 201411 yr … lots of people are planning on taking the AF up on their TERA offer and already had to show their cards to their bosses. Nobody has confidence in A1 or anyone running this… nobody knows who Gen Grosso is and fewer care. ^^This Chang-alang-a-ding-dong is a steno pad troll...hahaha!
January 15, 201411 yr Who knows. I did, as a matter of fact hear a 3-star use the same words regarding force shaping in a base-wide brief ("breathe, relax, this won't hurt a bit") so it sounds like standard talking points from the top. I hear that is what the flight doc says to you during your separation physical. Just thought those of you considering separation should know.... You'll get it if you stay, but you'll get it if you go too....
January 15, 201411 yr Speaking of getting it one last time.. Assuming VSP is still available, when do you have to decide to take the money? I know they claim the money is to "buy you out" of your retirement, but most would have to sign the 3-yr IRR commitment. Does anyone have any data points about involuntary recalls or would the AF abuse the Guard/Reserves first? Sounds like a long shot, but increased probability in our present climate.
January 15, 201411 yr What's her deal? Never heard of her until Chang professed his undying love last night. I know Sam Cox is one of the "good guys", but if she is running this shit show I'm not impressed by how it is going so far.
January 16, 201411 yr For people who have submitted vsp, have any of you guys gotten to the page where it says you have to attach a supporting document and it won't let you submit without it? What did you submit? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
January 16, 201411 yr For people who have submitted vsp, have any of you guys gotten to the page where it says you have to attach a supporting document and it won't let you submit without it? What did you submit? Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAt a minimum you should attach the ready reserve agreement with signature. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
January 16, 201411 yr Thanks, any more pointers on any other documents that should be attached? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
January 16, 201411 yr At a minimum you should attach the ready reserve agreement with signature. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It's attachment 2 (pg13) in PSDM 13-130. It's also buried in another PSDM referenced in the normal early separation process on the mypers website if you care to dig for it. Edited January 16, 201411 yr by BamaC-21
January 16, 201411 yr Doesn't compute. Services SNCO would have inevitably been the Wing Holiday Party POC or Multicultural Committee Chairperson, therefore on paper they are more valuable. No, the patch wearer would have had those jobs...
January 16, 201411 yr We have a LtCol who applied for and was approved for TERA (I believe), he's been getting calls all day from other O-5s all over the base about how he was able too. The amount of ATP and Airline talk going on at the squadron at ALL levels, copilots to evaluators, has been impressive the last few days. Had an EP joke today about how the next GK session will be about the best way to get your ATP and invite Airline recruiters to the squadron for interviews. This whole thing is a shit-show of immense scale! Any word on official release of 131? I'm curious if my '10 year group in 11Ms will be FSB eligible or not. From the talk around the squadron it sound like 6 - 9 IP/EPs are going to make a run for VSP/Palace Chase/Get the hell out. Also overheard (from a virtual GRACC) the 18AF/CC saying his biggest concern was 11Ms running to the airlines, I wonder how long that took to reach his level?
January 16, 201411 yr We have a LtCol who applied for and was approved for TERA (I believe), he's been getting calls all day from other O-5s all over the base about how he was able too. Doubt it was TERA… but it would be great news for others if it was! Edited January 16, 201411 yr by Rusty Pipes
January 16, 201411 yr Also overheard (from a virtual GRACC) the 18AF/CC saying his biggest concern was 11Ms running to the airlines, I wonder how long that took to reach his level? Unless 18 AF had a change of command that didn't get publicized, I highly doubt he said anything like that... not really his M.O.
January 16, 201411 yr Just trying to insert some humor. Although this is Army (and DuffelBlog), it seems too true to be fake. LEAKED MEMO: We Need To Purge Soldiers Who Deployed To Iraq Or Afghanistan Read more: https://www.duffelblog.com/2014/01/leaked-army-memo/#ixzz2qWfhMqg2
January 16, 201411 yr Doubt it was TERA… but it would be great news for others if it was! Yeah I've been following my incident number obsessively and so far there's no action on it whatsoever. I am knocking on wood and praying to any evil god that will listen that there wasn't a collective "oh shit, we gotta turn this off" yesterday morning at AFPC because every single rated person who is eligible clicked the TERA button.
January 16, 201411 yr Not sure if posted, we made the fish wrapper. https://blogs.militarytimes.com/flightlines/2014/01/13/coming-soon-the-retention-games/
January 16, 201411 yr I'll ask him what he was approved for, he was really surprised he got it so fast, less than 24hr turnaround apparently. ' And I'm not sure exactly what 18thAF/CC said, but he was talking to a bunch of Capt's in that new virtual GRACC tour they do in lieu of a TDY, our guy came out of the session (all online) and was talking about how that was 18AF/CC's biggest personnel concern. Its all RUMINT as far as i'm concerned, but I thought they warrant passing out to BODN. How are the rest of the squadrons looking at this? Any ATP/Airline talks? Ops normal? Just wondering
January 16, 201411 yr Not sure if posted, we made the fish wrapper.https://blogs.militarytimes.com/flightlines/2014/01/13/coming-soon-the-retention-games/ Aren't they the douches who got their panties in a wad over quoting articles & insisted we link to their site instead...? Quick, somebody slap a cease-and-desist letter on them....
January 16, 201411 yr I'll ask him what he was approved for, he was really surprised he got it so fast, less than 24hr turnaround apparently. ' And I'm not sure exactly what 18thAF/CC said, but he was talking to a bunch of Capt's in that new virtual GRACC tour they do in lieu of a TDY, our guy came out of the session (all online) and was talking about how that was 18AF/CC's biggest personnel concern. Its all RUMINT as far as i'm concerned, but I thought they warrant passing out to BODN. How are the rest of the squadrons looking at this? Any ATP/Airline talks? Ops normal? Just wondering I think the AF managers could gain some credibility by not screwing this one up (not working out so far). Don't offer TERA and then deny it… don't let anyone apply for VSP and then tell them after they aren't eligible… don't change the rules midstream. We have a "glut of 11Ms" as Chang claims? Let them go. Edited January 16, 201411 yr by Rusty Pipes
January 16, 201411 yr In all seriousness...and I know, I'm usually extremely sarcastic (which drives Champ and Rusty nuts), but not in this instance....please give me straight-forward, honest feedback on why you (if applicable) are so confident that things in the civilian world will be significantly better for you, your family, your sense of purpose, your paycheck...your life. Is there nothing redeeming anymore about a full Air Force career? Is "Air Force Career" a dirty phrase? There's so much anger on BODN, I don't think General Welsh could do anything to please many of you. I don't see that much anger in real life, so I'm trying to understand the disconnect. Thanks in advance for the straight-forward, specific responses. And if you love what you do, please don't be afraid to post as well. Edited for spelling- thanks Barnes. Edited January 16, 201411 yr by General Chang
January 16, 201411 yr How are the rest of the squadrons looking at this? Any ATP/Airline talks? Ops normal? Just wondering5 new ATPS in the last couple months, 2 more taking written this month followed soon by practical. 4 of us just took the Emerald Coast Interview course so yes, lots happening here.
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