Muscle2002 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) Interesting exchange (one-way mostly) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGGaIZXZmAM Edited May 1, 2013 by Muscle2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herkbum Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVIL Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Jersey Strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetter Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 God, he sounds like a little bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsdriver Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I was an ALO with Gen O. During an exercise about 40 slides deep into a 100 plus slide briefing Gen O. Stood up and said "I don't care about all these useless f--king slides, just tell me who is winning the f--king war". It got pretty quiet after that and no more slides. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineapigfury Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I was an ALO with Gen O. During an exercise about 40 slides deep into a 100 plus slide briefing Gen O. Stood up and said "I don't care about all these useless f--king slides, just tell me who is winning the f--king war". It got pretty quiet after that and no more slides. That is awesome. So many briefers are code 3 without powerpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everybody Knows Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 ......Full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickhistory Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Another example of the politization (sp?) of the military. We expect petty BS from Congress but not from the military. Not a good thing and a great way to get your budget slashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Not a good thing and a great way to get your budget slashed. More? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickhistory Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 More? Yep. If you think the congressman didn't leave and sic his staff on finding a way to punish Odierno (deservedly), I think you are naïve. But I see Odierno with political ambitions a la Wesley Clark. Democrat with military experience and a favorite of this Administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozac Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Looked to me like a military leader standing up to a politician. Couldn't we use more of that right now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Looked to me like a military leader standing up to a politician. Couldn't we use more of that right now? Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Termy Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Agree with Prozac. Go ask the Army bros what they think of General Odierno; everyone I know thinks very highly of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amcflyboy Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Nope Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Dudes, I wish they could and would, but that's not how our system is set up. I see a lot of constitution thumpers around here (me included), so you cant really tell them to pound sand. The thought of the military standing up to our civilian leadership is a nogo for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 True...but a Congressman is not part of 'leadership' per se. But yes, we are required to give them their due respect. Which is why I have never said anything negative about any public official ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickhistory Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) Odierno's behavior was wrong. Regardless of what party the d-bag is doing the questioning, it is the military's role to answer factually and unemotionally. Se the one star calling Sen Boxer "Ma'am" for the correct TTP. Here is where I start to put my spin on it vice just the facts: I believe Odierno was p.o.'d, but because Big Green handled DCGS-A badly and have been called out repeatedly by Congress in general and Hunter in particular. Odierno doesn't like having to explain himself. I also believe he has political aspirations in his not too distant future with a big D after his name. This footage will be in campaign ad... edited to spell DCGS-A correctly Edited May 2, 2013 by brickhistory 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_Vezencuando Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Inouye addressing North ... but that's ancient history these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozac Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Agree that the military should and will always be subservient to civilian leadership. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that our highest ranking officers should automatically bend to the will of politicians. For instance, they should be insisting on BRACing superfluous bases regardless of who's district they're in. I admit, I don't know shit about DCGS-A, and Brick, you seem to, so I'll take your word that it was handled badly. I don't think that the general's tone was de-facto inappropriate however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe1234 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Agree that the military should and will always be subservient to civilian leadership. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that our highest ranking officers should automatically bend to the will of politicians. For instance, they should be insisting on BRACing superfluous bases regardless of who's district they're in. I believe they do insist on it, however, for those Congressmen, the benefit of keeping then base around in their district outweighs the benefit of, say, overall adequate military readiness. And that reflects the will of the voters in their district. For all the lip service given to "supporting the troops", there's not a single constituency in the nation that will sacrifice their jobs and associated economic activity for the overall defense of the nation right now. That's America for you. Love it or leave it, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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