5 hours ago5 hr I went by my local gun shop on Monday and as they still haven't received guidance from the ATF on the ruling, they are still requiring a Form 4 for suppressors. The owner, a bud, recommended waiting a week or so until said guidance is received. Many FFLs are doing the same.However, another bud randomly walked in while I was there and bought his first suppressor. He was in an out in about an hour, they took care of all the application requirements and it was approved while he waited.This caused two dilemmas for me, am I OK with the ATF having a record of my NFA item via the Form 4, or do I wait until all that is needed is a 4473 which stays with my local gun store unless they close shop.The second is do I buy my first suppressor (yes, I am lagging on this due to the NFA registration) for a .22 (which I am more likely to use) or my 5.56 hopefully-soon legal SBR (if Form 1s follow suite on the same ruling)?I have debated getting a suppressor for years, mainly due to the NFA documentation. I had a bad experience when the ATF allowed pistol braces to be registered without the $200 tax stamp (before the Big Beautiful Bill nullified that). They screwed up my paperwork and I just forgot about that until I got a rejection notice in the mail two years later. I was not going to refile at that point as the brace worked for my needs and I didn’t want to go through that headache again even though I knew it would be easier the second time around.At this point, I’m just going to wait. I know there will be a mad run on suppressors once the ATF puts out its guidance, but I’m in no rush. Much like my SBR, it’s a nicety but not anything I absolutely must have; and I can be patient...
3 hours ago3 hr Honestly, get both. Not just because more is better 🤣😂. You're getting too fundamentally different shooting experiences with the two suppressors you mentioned. With 22 you can have the spooky silent experience, which is really neat. Especially if you put it on a bolt action rifle. My buddy and I were out at the range recently and it was quieter than a normal volume conversation.556 is supersonic, so it's not going to be quiet per se, but it does dramatically improve the shooting experience. You'll still want hearing protection on if you're the one shooting, but when my friends shoot suppressed 556, as long as I'm 10 or more feet away, hearing protection is optional.If you insist on only getting one, get whichever one you shoot more. My intention is to convert as many of my weapons over to suppressed as possible. It's just more enjoyable to shoot suppressed. Kind of makes me angry, because if the NFA hadn't included silencers for the last hundred years, it's crazy to think of how much quieter all firearms would be in general as suppressor technology would be incorporated at a base level. Oh well, at least now that can happen.
3 hours ago3 hr 6 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said:Honestly, get both.Not just because more is better 🤣😂. You're getting too fundamentally different shooting experiences with the two suppressors you mentioned. With 22 you can have the spooky silent experience, which is really neat. Especially if you put it on a bolt action rifle. My buddy and I were out at the range recently and it was quieter than a normal volume conversation.556 is supersonic, so it's not going to be quiet per se, but it does dramatically improve the shooting experience. You'll still want hearing protection on if you're the one shooting, but when my friends shoot suppressed 556, as long as I'm 10 or more feet away, hearing protection is optional.If you insist on only getting one, get whichever one you shoot more. My intention is to convert as many of my weapons over to suppressed as possible. It's just more enjoyable to shoot suppressed. Kind of makes me angry, because if the NFA hadn't included silencers for the last hundred years, it's crazy to think of how much quieter all firearms would be in general as suppressor technology would be incorporated at a base level. Oh well, at least now that can happen.Yup. Its just better in every aspect for almost every gun. Especially long days on the range.
2 hours ago2 hr 23 hours ago, fire4effect said:I have an identical set-up. I have the pistol next to my Surefire and the glowing rear sights make it easy to find both the pistol and the flashlight in the dark.More specifically, my G19 is set up the same as the FFDO weapon. I only carry the extra magazine when doing security at church.
1 hour ago1 hr 26 minutes ago, TreeA10 said:More specifically, my G19 is set up the same as the FFDO weapon. I only carry the extra magazine when doing security at church."A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition!"~~ Rudyard Kipling
1 hour ago1 hr 2 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:Honestly, get both.Not just because more is better 🤣😂. You're getting too fundamentally different shooting experiences with the two suppressors you mentioned. With 22 you can have the spooky silent experience, which is really neat. Especially if you put it on a bolt action rifle. My buddy and I were out at the range recently and it was quieter than a normal volume conversation.556 is supersonic, so it's not going to be quiet per se, but it does dramatically improve the shooting experience. You'll still want hearing protection on if you're the one shooting, but when my friends shoot suppressed 556, as long as I'm 10 or more feet away, hearing protection is optional.If you insist on only getting one, get whichever one you shoot more. My intention is to convert as many of my weapons over to suppressed as possible. It's just more enjoyable to shoot suppressed. Kind of makes me angry, because if the NFA hadn't included silencers for the last hundred years, it's crazy to think of how much quieter all firearms would be in general as suppressor technology would be incorporated at a base level. Oh well, at least now that can happen.Concur all. I have shot a YHM Turbo-K RB at Quiet in the Capitol, an annual free suppressed-only shooting event hosted by Capitol Armory in the Austin area to "test-fire firearms equipped with suppressors from many major manufacturers, speak with industry representatives, and compare products before purchasing" a couple of years back, and thought it was perfect for my needs. Suppressors being part of the NFA is ridiculous, I don't think even SBRs/SBSs belong on that list. In fact, none of it does; but suppressors have nothing to with organized crime (the original alleged purpose of the Act) nor did it increase accountability and traceability for "particularly powerful or concealable weapons."The GCA of 1968, in response to the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Senator Robert F. Kennedy, is equally idiotic. There is NO definitive proof that either Act reduced gun crime. The biggest drivers of the decline in gun-related crime appear to be improved policing, the end of the crack era that fueled much of the violence in the 1980s and early 1990s, demographic shifts and other social changes such as the increased incarceration of repeat violent offenders rather than any single gun-control law.But back to the point, once the ATF pulls its cranium out of its fourth point-of-contact, I will be likely be running to my favorite LGS to pick up two supressors as quickly as I can. I've put it off for far too long, and the removal of a Form 4 will be the catalyst of my next spending spree!
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