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Almost like applying a universal vaccine mandate for everyone, everywhere as if they were all being affected the same doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

You should choose your words more carefully. When you use absolutes just to try and sound more confident in your position, you stand a much greater chance of contradicting yourself, and losing credibility when you later have to backpedal and explain your position is much more nuanced when called on it. I have no problem at all with you doing your own personal risk analysis. Do what you want. But, do not apply your risk analysis to me because my personal analysis says deteriorating freedoms and liberties which allow us to be able to have this discussion in the first place is more of a risk than either COVID or the vaccine.

Anyone placing bets on the results of the CA governor recall election? "You've already voted" Multiple mail-in ballots received at a single address: https://air.tv/?v=Zrkh2VA_T6WKaCdrne04iQ

Let's check in on our overwhelmed hospitals... https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1437451002714607618?s=20

I recently spoke to a friend who is flying cargo in and out of China. He wanted to tell me about the way foreign aircrews are treated. Maybe someone here can speak to the COVID processing lines there. Apparently, China has done a great job in making sure every citizen believes COVID is a US biological weapon. As such, much of the chinese population is united against a common enemy. This article has been circulated by the CCP to every major news outlet, and nearly all are state owned. It is also circulated on social media. You can use Chrome or Google Translate to read here: http://www.news.cn/politics/2021-08/29/c_1127807097.htm "Everyone Can Feel a Profound Change is Underway! China is currently facing an increasingly severe and complex international environment. The United States is implementing increasingly severe military threats, economic and technological blockades, financial strikes, political and diplomatic siege against China, and is launching biological warfare, cyber warfare, and public opinion against China. Wars and space wars have increasingly launched a color revolution against China through the fifth column within China. If at this time, we have to rely on those big capitalists as the main force of anti-imperialist and anti-hegemony, and are still catering to the American nipple strategy, so that our young generation will lose their strong and masculine glory, then we don’t need enemies to fight. I fell first, just like the Soviet Union back then, letting the country collapse, letting the country's wealth be looted, and letting the people fall into serious disaster. Therefore, the profound changes currently taking place in China are precisely in response to the current severe and complicated international situation, precisely in response to the brutal and ferocious attacks that the United States has begun to launch against China." Chinese sabre-rattling is nothing new, but it has escalated significantly beyond a point where we could previously dismiss it as just China talkin' trash. China must think now is the time to capitalize on the social, financial, military and political chaos that we're experiencing here. They're going to make a move soon. Buy your Christmas gifts early. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202109/1234177.shtml

I would love to have a Humvee with a turret on top around the farm. It's easier for Iran to get them by the dozen than it is for me to get one. Not fair. https://twitter.com/KianSharifi/status/1433038861903532034?s=20

Complete bullshit. You don't have first hand knowledge of this. You are merely repeating what people with an obvious agenda want you to repeat. Where did you get the information that says if you suggest there are potential long term side effects, that you are scientifically and historically illiterate? You believe it. What's your basis? As @ClearedHotand @FLEA have said, this is an mRNA vaccine. No other vaccine you have ever taken was an mRNA vaccine. Why are you using data from those to make uniformed generalizations about this one? They work on the body differently. They are two distinct categories of substances. But what is a vaccine? The CDC, and now dictionaries, are changing the definition of what the word "vaccine" has been for decades, to further confuse and obfuscate what this one is a supposed to do, because it doesn't do what vaccines traditionally have. They're actually changing what words mean to further this BS you've bought into. Today: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm Aug 26, 2021: https://web.archive.org/web/20210826113846/https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm The mRNA technology was invented by Dr. Robert Malone. Is he scientifically illiterate? If you're trying to be intellectually honest and want to genuinely know the truth, please listen to this podcast with Dr. Malone, evolutionary biologist Dr. Brett Weinstein and Steve Kirsch. I can't embed it here because it was censored from Youtube for challenging the narrative. It's an hour long. The original Dark Horse Podcast is 3.5 hours if you really want to educate yourself. I did it over the course of a few days driving. If you're really short on time, start at 35:30. This substance is ending up in high concentrations in tissues (such as ovaries) and other parts of the body where it is not supposed to be, so yes, there is a potential for long term complications. If you want to argue that fact, just please educate yourself first, and don't accuse people of being illiterate because they have listened to, and found credence in, both sides of the debate instead of just yours. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/censored-dark-horse-podcast-bret-weinstein-robert-malone-inventor-mrna-vaccine-technology/

Well ain't that some shit. https://www.newsweek.com/members-congress-staff-exempt-biden-covid-vaccine-mandate-1627859 Rules for thee...

That's an odd choice of words to highlight in a thread about tyranny while advocating for forced vaccinations.

Hold up, Doctor Abortionology. It is useful. Where did you get those two numbers? Did you make them up? What's all this black and white talk? I was curious as to your arbitrary delineation between "person/not-a-person" and produced this link within 5 seconds: 21 weeks. https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/worlds-most-premature-baby-who-holds-guinness-world-record-celebrates-first-birthday-2469034 You did seem to indicate you had a deep personal interest in the subject and yet still didn't know the actual fetal viability timeframe. You drew the line, not me. It begs the question: Do you use the same moral calculus that tells you it's okay to terminate a fetus at 23 weeks... to justify telling someone else what you can force them to inject into their body? If so, it must be quite the empowering feeling. I bet it feels good. Neg, I know what I'm doing. I drug you into the abortion debate because I knew you couldn't produce an answer without saying something dumb. And that's okay. We all do it. It's also okay to admit there isn't enough information available to tell someone else what they must be forced do with their body.

No, I can't say that I have ever though about life beginning before conception. But if I were the type of ridiculous person to contemplate such BS to divert attention from my inability to produce an answer to a very direct question, I might speculate it to be in the hundreds of billions, and in dozens of countries around the globe. But anyway, what is your "certain number" and "certain point" you earlier alluded to?

Did I mention that I am in no way against someone getting vaccinated if they think they are at high risk?

Hmm. Interesting. You keep saying things like "up to a certain number", "at a certain point", and then follow it up with "reasonable limits". Would you care to clarify? You obviously have thought this through, so why did you stop short of specifics, Doctor? If your position on abortion is vague and nuanced, why isn't your position on vaccination? Very strange. An exceptional article in The Atlantic about the Roe baby from Roe vs. Wade (now a mother of two herself) from a couple days ago: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/09/jane-roe-v-wade-baby-norma-mccorvey/620009/.

Guess not. Oh, well.

Dr. Abortionology, can you back to the part about “my body, my choice”? I’d be interested to hear it from a PhD perspective.

Completely unrelated. The Navy FIRES offensive coordinator for LOSING to the Air Force. They can't do that, can they? https://theathletic.com/news/navy-fires-longtime-offensive-coordinator-ivin-jasper-after-0-2-start-reports/SJ7wv1p3OpUn

To address the arguments related to COVID hospitalizations and statistics: If I were to argue that the numbers have been manipulated to serve a desired end, instead of an appropriate end, would you immediately call it conspiracy theory? You'd be half correct. Here is video evidence of hospital staff conspiring, but it's not a theory. Is this the process by which other hospitals generate their COVID numbers? I don't have the answer, but the probability is not zero. Despicable. These are the numbers people rely on to generate an appropriate response, and they're being f'd with. The video: https://twitter.com/speaakn2/status/1436553883829121030?s=20 An article that provides some context and an insufficient explanation by the hospital: https://www.wbtv.com/2021/09/10/novant-health-issues-statement-leaked-internal-discussion-covid-19-patient-numbers/

douche.

My wife hates it when this song comes on. I sing along every time. "...and little hurly burly gave my anus curl a whirty an asked me if I needed a ruuuunnnn.... Blinded by the light, wrapped up like a DOUCHE on a runner in the night"

Did you not see the part where I said I wasn't accusing you of anything in the quote? How is that self-righteous? When you contradicted yourself, apparently unaware, it just made me think of it. Kind of makes the "ignorance" jab a bit ironic, does it not? lol

I was just pointing out that your entire argument was lifted from the first comment on the link I posted. Please don't pretend you put on your internet sleuthing hat and searched it out. Minor critique.It really doesn't matter What does matter is that I apparently didn't prove my point that vaccines present an increased heart problems risk to your satisfaction with the link I provided. So you went and found another link, that you like better, that says vaccines present an increased risk of heart problems. Ok. You win. Uh, Thanks?

We pilot tend to be pre-alotofthings. There is a small glimmer of hope. Link: You probably didn't see it on the news, but I don't think the UK wants the massive demonstrations and riots that occurred today in Paris, Tolouse, Barcelona, Catalan, Milan, Montreal, the Netherlands, Poland, etc, etc, etc... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-vaccine-passports-scrapped-for-winter-5g2fdb2zn Let's hope next month's plans for the US get scrapped as well. Also, a map of fully vaccinated Americans by state. It's a lot different than I thought. Looks like there are more states less than 50% fully vaccinated than there are states over 50%. I wonder what the map would look like by county. https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker

That's a little disconcerting. Did you ever find out why? I recommend googling "swollen armpit lymphnodes" extensively to see what conditions could cause this. You know... conditions that might have developed after getting the vaccine. Purely coincidentally, of course.

Your first response was a copy and paste of another comment stating that there is no evidence that the vaccine increases the risk of heart problems. Then, your very next comment states that that there may actually be and increased chance of heart problems and that we should consider the risk. Which is it? Your responses immediately brought this quote to mind. Not accusing you of it, it's just amusing. "To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself -- that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed."