HeloDude

The difference between me and others is that I support people making their own decisions on what’s best for them…do you?

Nah, it just shows the hypocrisy of you and others. You pick and choose info/advice from medical professionals and then get mad when others do the same. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Says the Nav who would intentionally seek out those not wearing a mask who haven’t had the shot and issue punishment under Article 15… Or am I just “trolling you”? Even though you didn’t even comment on the substance of the article I just posted… Let me know when you agree with the medical professionals and start wearing a mask again everywhere you go.

Let me know when all those who have had their covid shots suddenly are back to believing they need to wear masks and practice social distancing…you know, because it’s what the medical professionals say. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/06/25/delta-who-urges-fully-vaccinated-people-to-continue-to-wear-masks-as-variant-spreads.html If you don’t support people doing what they believe is right for themselves but at the same time are picking and choosing what you do vs what medical professionals want you to do, then you’re the problem.

The same medical professionals (1K of them) who said that the anti-lockdown protests were dangerous due to the spread of covid but the protests after the Floyd shooting was ok because it was for a better cause? (see link below). https://www.wsj.com/articles/health-care-workers-say-protests-are-vital-despite-coronavirus-risks-11591790600 The covid pandemic has been heavily politicized from the very start by both sides…but one side was all about using the virus to increase government control and reduce individual liberties all in the name of saving lives…and then gave a pass when it suited their agenda or their own personal lives (let me know if you or others want more examples). So when it comes to the mask wear and the vaccine, it should be up the individual, and that should be respected. My parents got the shot and I support their decision, and likewise I have a lot of friends who don’t think they need it and/or don’t feel comfortable with taking a vaccine that isn’t FDA approved and only authorized under emergency status, and that is also fine. Yet we have some on this forum who still believe you’re killing your neighbor if you don’t get the shot or don’t wear a mask—and that’s the problem. By the way, if people who have had the covid shot can still get covid, as well as still transmit covid/infect others, then why aren’t vaccinated people still required to wear a mask? Especially if the mask was more so about protecting other vulnerable people around you and less about protecting yourself? (this wasn’t a direct post to you Bronco, but rather addressing others on here who say to trust the medical folks no matter what and if you don’t get the shot then you want others to die)

I’m assuming this was meant for Pawnman?

Right back at you brother! Careful…someone might not be wearing a mask!

Thank you for answering my questions with another question. Makes it obvious that you can’t or don’t want to answer them. But coming from a guy who would give anyone an Article 15 for speeding, not wearing a reflective belt, etc…I’m not surprised. You do know that you can see the foolishness of your ways and admit that you were wrong, right? Or are you sticking to your original post below?

If it’s so safe and effective, then why hasn’t the military made it mandatory? Also (again), if it’s so safe and effective, then why hasn’t it been approved by the FDA under normal ops?

As I said, I hope to never have to serve with you. By the way, when are commanders getting relieved of duty for selective enforcement of the policy?—exactly. Oh and don’t forget, you said if you were a commander that you would hunt down those who weren’t wearing a mask and didn’t have the vaccine (ie nothing about the member lying)…and somehow this now applies to “lying to my face”. What a joke…

So why aren’t others getting the vaccine if they believe they’ll be at risk for serious harm if they contract the virus? I love the “risk” argument…it’s always an argument that suits the person who want to have A or ban B. The difference between progressives/statists and libertarians is that libertarians believe the choice should be up to you, where as progressives and statists believe you should whatever they want. Don’t believe me?…progressives (even those on this page), want to ban AR-15s, even though statically you’re more at risk of dying after getting a covid vaccine than being killed by someone with an AR-15. And when was the last time government agencies set up monetary incentives to the general public to get an experimental vaccine? I don’t expect we’re going to see eye to eye on this…especially since you support commanders giving punishment under Art 15 for those who don’t wear a mask and haven’t had the shot (I hope to never have to work with you btw). Though in a trial, I would put my bet on someone in this situation being acquitted. Why?—glad you asked. During the whole mast mandate, especially in the end, I saw commanders being very selective of requiring guys to wear a mask. Walking around the halls, have one on. A get together in the squadron bar for a going away, don’t need to wear one.

High paying is high paying, is it not? Either this or with a company with more than a few employees. I don’t have to like it, and neither do you, but these GOs will have zero problems getting hired by a legitimate business if that’s what they want. They have more influence and connections than you or I could ever dream. And with the defense industry/military industrial complex only getting larger, those businesses are even that more hungry for retired GOs.

Fair enough, but if you don’t think Wills or any other GO isn’t going to find a high paying job at a “company” then you’re fooling yourself.

I doubt the current 19 AF/CC is going to try and get hired to fly for an airline anytime soon, but I could be wrong.

Perhaps the board looked at the entire records of all those eligible and scored them as they saw them? As frustrating as it is, I’m sure you wouldn’t have been as upset if you were one of those promoted with a P over someone with a DP. As much as it sucks for those good folks getting passed over, especially with a DP, I’m glad to see more people with a P getting promoted, even if that means some with a DP aren’t getting promoted—it means an (supposedly) impartial board is actually looking at the entire record.

Disagree man—if that were the case for me, then I wouldn’t have made O-5. I was a Top 1/3 graduate at SOS and was a Wing CGO/qtr, but had very few strats as a Lt and Capt (and those weren’t anything great). As a Major in a staff job I just did my normal stuff, but I guess that was enough for my O-6 to give me a couple of solid Major strats and pulled a DP on my IPZ board from the 2-star…which is what really matters to your O-5 board IMO. That and a breadth of different experiences (ie duty titles)/leadership roles. I’ve also since been a Wing DS and had a voice on the wing strat meetings…a Major can get a solid push if the bosses think they deserve it, regardless of their prior record. But I’ll also add this—competition is everything. If you’re competing with weak swimmers, it’s much easier to look good and that can be a make or break when it comes to strats, awards, and getting a P vs a DP. Sucks to hear about you and other good guys and gals getting passed over. I just wanted to add a bit of a different perspective. Good luck!

Fair enough—so why hasn’t AOC and Ilhan Omar been banned as well?

But our elections…totally secure, just like our border.

When you design/build lethal tools that are used by white people to kill non-white people…but you’re still trying to show that you care. Or something… https://www.dailywire.com/news/report-lockheed-martin-forced-thousands-of-employees-to-undergo-white-male-re-education-training

I just saw “News of the World”—I like westerns and Tom Hanks is still a pretty good actor. It was a bit slow, but neat how they discuss various areas of Texas (if you’re familiar with the state). I give it average to slightly above average.

Is Fauci going to take the fall or is something else brewing? https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/dr-fauci-keeps-changing-his-wuhan-lab-funding-story-jay-battacharya-tells-laura-ingraham/ar-AAKokMK

My quick bar napkin math tells me that it’s nearly impossible to be a ‘graduated’ sq cc and then have your first look. Even if you’re early to command, I’m pretty sure your first look would still be while being a sitting commander. I had a recent Sq commander who was not a BTZ O-5, but was a school select on his O-5 board, who then was picked up his first look while being a commander. Interestingly enough he turned it down.

Looks like Texas Constitutional Carry might actually happen… https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05/20/texas-constitutional-carry/

You didn’t answer my question from yesterday…

Would you have also given someone an Article 15 if that person 2 weeks ago was in the squadron and not wearing a mask? (not in a room by themselves, closed door, blah blah blah).