HuggyU2

Out of curiosity, I called the AFPC 800 number and asked them about the program. After the 18 minute hold time, the person that answered had no clue what I was talking about, and thought I was referring to the program to bring back 25 officers. I was transferred to a rated recall office somewhere else in the building, but the SME was gone already (1532L in San Antonio).

Haha... you guys crack me up. A big thanks to those that generously responded. It is a big help. Funny how much briefing skills can atrophy when you don't use them much for 3 years.

Side note: I knew Boots from the airshow circuit. Made Captain... but got fired around 3-4 years ago while commander of NAF El Centro. In any case, don't ask him. He didn't like discussing the shootdown. As an additional curious side note, my tablemate from UPT was the guy that flew cover over Boots and engaged the enemy. He earned the Air Force Cross doing it. Well deserved for a very good guy.

Not in the U-2. A few seconds past break release, you go, unless the Cuisinart stops blending completely. I'm go-oriented in the T-38. My technique for T-38 ops used to be abort if you were below bug speed. Then it was abort if below 100 KIAS. Then it was abort if the burners hadn't lit Then it was abort if the engines won't start. Much easier decision since you're going so slow.

I'd like a template of a lineup card for formation flying. Something from the T-38 or T-6 is probably the best for what I need, but I'll take anything. I'd rather not reinvent the wheel. It needs to be editable. PM me for an email address to send it. Thank you.

I hold no animosity toward you. I simply disagree with you on this issue. Yes, I've drank with you, and I've fully supported your pursuits. I wouldnt have if I didn't respect your viewpoints. You are well-read individual, with a wickedly sharp intellect. I would lose to you in a formal debate. I thoroughly enjoyed the thought provoking discussions we had in the 'Stan. I didn't agree with all you stated, but you do give compelling arguments that must be contemplated Additionally, I apologize for grouping you with Vertigo. Very poor form on my part. But you and I see this case differently. After 28 years on active duty, I trust my intuition on which ones I'd keep... and which ones I'd cut loose. The military cannot have... or save... everyone. I hope you and I can raise a beer together in the future.

Part of it is that I believe Christians are tired of being the last group that can be maligned, abused, and discriminated against. World-wide, and in America. I'm not a very good theologian but if these four young Airmen "took up their cross", and truly repented for their actions, Jesus would forgive them. Duh. The feel-good story would be if one or all of them turn their lives around, enter the seminary, and become clergy. Maybe one of them will come back as an AF Chaplain and be able to relate their story to other Airman. Wouldn't that be great, LR? https://www.osv.com/OSVNewsweekly/Story/TabId/2672/ArtMID/13567/ArticleID/13934/Former-Satanist-becomes-Catholic-leader-teacher.aspx But save me the "what would Jesus do", WRT to the military's decision. That's a decision for the pastor and the local congregation. I imagine you might be the second person (right after Vertigo), to scream bloody murder if the the AF based their decision on "WWJD?". The AF shouldn't be in the business of offering absolution to these Airman. It take a lot of time, money, and resources that can be used for... you know... killing people trying to kill our way of life. And as a side note: I'm not interested in helping out people that identify with the Satanic lifestyle. It's contrary to what I believe are the characteristics we should look for in military people. Just my personal preference. YMMV. Not everyone that actually gets into the military should be there. The screening process isn't perfect. I'm of the opinion that these four slipped through, and now that they've been identified, they should find a new career. Another point: with ages of 18, 18, 19, and 20, they haven't been out of Basic Training that long. If they principles and discipline of BMT have already been discarded by them... especially the two 18 year olds... I believe there are some serious character flaws that disqualify them from military service. I wish them the best in life, and truly hope they turn their lives around. But I'm personally not interested in putting them through AF-sponsored rehab. They had their chance at a military career, and they porked it away. Adios.

Knocking over porta-potties with their buds inside is "kids being kids", in my opinion. Personally, I want nothing to to with "kids" that want to tag a historic church with satanic graffiti. I don't believe this behavior meets the cut, and I do not want them in my country's military Additionally, had the target of their vandalism been a synagogue, NAACP office, or a building flying a gay pride flag... with the appropriate words that get media attention... the outrage would have been front page national news. These Airmen are broken. Get new ones. We have almost nothing invested in them. Just one man's opinion.

Or the trainees going through the course could meet the standard that has been set. Everyone doesn't get a medal. Get tough or join the circus.

Holy shit, Hacker. And all this time, the only reading I thought you did were P-51 flight manuals, beer labels, and steamy romance novels. Look at the big brain on his shoulders!

It's all about S.A. on your event timing. And this should be briefed early. Crack the beer at the earliest possible point... THEN take the phone call from the caller ID that says "SQ/DO"... THEN say "Unable". Amateurs... Hmmm... my advice on cracking the beer would be more difficult. But you'd be legendary if you used it in this case.

Do you believe that will prevent the next attack?

Call the Chief of Recruiting: DSN 368-4447.

To accommodate those that cannot operate "uncontrolled", they are going to have a TFR on Sunday from ~1130-1230 (tentative, but it will be close to this) for military aircraft that want to depart. The Air Boss will have control of the TFR, just like he will on Friday and Saturday for the military flyovers/demos. If that changes your ability to attend the show as a static, let me know. Still looking for more flyovers too.

Military simulator jobs pay fairly well. I'm told by Navy friends that Hornet sim IP's at Lemoore make upwards of $175k. Obviously, you're tied to living near that base. If an 8-hour day working in/around the squadron appeals to you, it might be a good option.

When you "hear a rumor" relating to things that affect airline pilots, get the name of the flight attendant that told you.

You may be right. But I know a few that have said in the last few days that they are done watching it for good. Time will tell. Maybe I'm an extreme case, but you won't find "NFL" on any TV in my house; on any TV in a house I'm visiting; nor on any merchandise in my possession. I have no idea why "fans" have loyalty to teams, since the bulk of the players have no loyalty to a specific city nor their fans. The days of Johnny Unitas are gone, folks. A Marine officer I know sent me this letter from a guy he knows: Commissioner,I’ve been a season pass holder at Yankee Stadium, Yale Bowl and Giants Stadium.I missed the ’90-’91 season because I was with a battalion of Marines in Desert Storm. 14 of my wonderful Marines returned home with the American Flag draped across their lifeless bodies. My last conversation with one of them, Sgt Garrett Mongrella, was about how our Giants were going to the Super Bowl. He never got to see it.Many friends, Marines, and Special Forces Soldiers who worked with or for me through the years returned home with the American Flag draped over their coffins.Now I watch multi-millionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game, disrespect what brave Americans fought and died for. They are essentially spitting in the faces and on the graves of real men, men who have actually done something for this country beside playing with a ball and believing they’re something special! They’re not! My Marines and Soldiers were!You are complicit in this!You’ll fine players for large and small infractions but you lack the moral courage and respect for our nation and the fallen to put an immediate stop to this. Yes, I know, it’s their 1st Amendment right to behave in such a despicable manner. What would happen if they came out and disrespected you or the refs publicly?I observed a player getting a personal foul for twerking in the end zone after scoring. I guess that’s much worse than disrespecting the flag and our National Anthem. Hmmmmm, isn’t it his 1st Amendment right to express himself like an idiot in the end zone?Why is taunting not allowed yet taunting America is OK? You fine players for wearing 9-11 commemorative shoes yet you allow scum on the sidelines to sit, kneel or pump their pathetic fist in the air. They are so deprived with their multi-million dollar contracts for playing a freaking game! You condone it all by your refusal to act. You’re just as bad and disgusting as they are. I hope Americans boycott any sponsor who supports that rabble you call the NFL. I hope they turn off the TV when any team that allowed this disrespect to occur, without consequence, on the sidelines. I applaud those who have not.Legends and heroes do NOT wear shoulder pads. They wear body armor and carry rifles.They make minimum wage and spend months and years away from their families. They don’t do it for an hour on Sunday. They do it 24/7 often with lead, not footballs, coming in their direction. They watch their brothers carted off in pieces not on a gurney to get their knee iced. They don’t even have ice! Many don’t have legs or arms.Some wear blue and risk their lives daily on the streets of America. They wear fire helmets and go upstairs into the fire rather than down to safety. On 9-11, hundreds vanished. They are the heroes.I hope that your high paid protesting pretty boys and you look in that mirror when you shave tomorrow and see what you really are, legends in your own minds. You need to hit the road and take those worms with you!Time to change the channel.Col Jeffrey A Powers USMC (Ret)Vista, California

Anyone else going? Drop me a note.

Way to go, coach. Hell of a mentor you are. https://fox2now.com/2017/09/18/8-year-old-cahokia-football-team-kneels-during-anthem-ahead-of-recent-game/

Reply sent. There will be at least 6 current or former U-2 pilots at the show. Trying to get a few more to come down.

Another incredible year in Box 102. Tons of U-2 guys past and present showed up. Plus the usual suspects Strega looked fast. But I believe Voodoo & Steve-o are saving up for the world record attempt... again. If you haven't been, you don't know what you're missing.

Would love to have a T-1 there, too. As I mentioned, you can arrive Friday... or Saturday morning before 1100.

I've taken an ACC T-38 to a non-towered airport in the past. I cannot recall where the "you must have a tower" rule is... but in my case, Squadron and Group leadership allowed it. What's the waiver authority in AETC for a T-6 to do this?