Clark Griswold

Then why did they become pilots? The AF never held a gun to my head to apply for pilot and pilot was not the only career choice selectable from my commissioning source (ROTC). If they are doing something that is highly sought after by cadets and requires much personal investment (enthusiasm, perseverance in the attainment of skill in it and professional focus) solely for future career possibilities are they really serving the AF with that choice or themselves? If the former, is it realistic to expect them to put 100% into mastering that operational skill and if the latter then how is that inline with the Core Values? Did the AF select someone that is personally committed to executing the majority of its operational responsibilities or pretended to so that they would be selected for something that would help them ostensibly in their career? Were they honest with the AF as to their intentions? Doesn't seem so based on your proposition they would be equally happy being in MX, Intel, etc... Excellent officers? Hmmm, don't think you can say that based on your explanation of your thoughts and some examination of them, just my two cents.

Yup. The thing about the "tactical tanker" is that it is / probably would be the right amount of AR capability + strike support (Comm, EW, ISR, weapons truck, etc...) that a lot of Allies would want in one aircraft without the larger cost / footprint of a medium weight tanker. Enough AR to extend your punch but not so much for Global Reach (at least not without some leap frogging). Cheaper to train with and if you don't need the boom for your receivers it likely would way less technically complicated. How to pay for it is the 6.9 billion dollar question along with everything else...

That's exactly what I thought also about significant use of commercial AR (status issues for crew, civilian vs. state aircraft issues, ownership of iron, logistics problems because of those factors, etc...). Ditto on contractors stateside and all military crew dawgs permanently in the sandbox fears. If this idea is percolating in the Building, I hope a tanker toad is at the table to make the case that CONUS based AR in training, exercises, business efforts, etc... is important as it builds experience prior to deployment, there is only so much that can be simulated and dealing with X factors in the air is how airmanship is made. On tanker capability I am with you on the need for a new strategic tanker or getting the 10 upgraded, somehow FedEx got theirs done. I am though starting to think we are using the past too much as a model for how we will operate in the future, what I mean by that is that the last 25 years have been over uncontested airspace with the very late "Grey Zone" AOR of Eastern Syria with Russian SAMs and Fighters capable of threatening but choosing not to. A spectrum of tanker capabilities with increasing ability to sense/defend against threats inverse to size is where we should be moving to IMHO. We sorta have that but are only meandering that way, it should be our procurement strategy for Air Refuelling for Mobility and Persistence. Strategic and Medium can be met with a 777 tanker or updated KC-10 and KC-46 (fixed) respectively. The new level needed IMHO is a tactical tanker, LO not required but Reduced Signature with self-defense & some EW with networked capabilities, lower off load required as it is designed to give strikers a last shot of gas just prior to ingress or a small shot on egress with the tanker itself having a relatively short on-station time. Basically the Israeli proposed Small Smart Tactical Tanker. Looking at a G600 I wonder if with a ton of money you could modify for lower signature with reshaped engine nacelles, delete the winglets, V-tail, recessed antennas, etc... and add hard points (2 wing, maybe 3 centerline), air to air radar with a new light weight boom. Wouldn't have to go deep into the WEZ sts but close enough or inside the A2AD area to be useful but not a liability as it would not need excessive DCA coverage.

Copy all Not an advocate for privatized AR, not opposed to it, but believe it should be a small niche in the way we provide operational support. Curious, how much does the RAF rely on commercial AR? Didn't know they used it. No doubt the KC-330 is not perfect but given that it is operational now, that is a strong point for acquisition for the USAF IMHO. 777 tanker would be a better choice (assuming a conventional AR capability installation, no camera system but a boom pod) for a replacement strategic tanker but that's only vaporware so go with what is available now IMHO again. The 46 ain't perfect but it is what we will have, 34 on the ramp waiting to be fixed and delivered to the AF. But will it make sense to operate a mixed fleet of medium tankers when the 46 is minimally acceptable for ops?

They made a helicopter to go with Frakentanker Buy an Airbus tanker for the strategic tanker if the 10 is to be retired, get some new tanker iron fast(er), light a fire under Big B to get their stuff in a sock. With no other competition for heavy military aircraft they've become complacent.

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KC-45... not dead yet? https://247wallst.com/aerospace-defense/2018/12/05/lockheed-martin-airbus-team-up-to-supply-a-tanker-in-case-the-air-force-needs-one-that-works/ From the article: The immediate effect is to poke a finger in Boeing’s eye. The Chicago-based aircraft maker has had its struggles delivering the KC-46 on a contract to replace 179 KC-135 tankers, about half the existing fleet of 400 of the older tankers. According to The Wall Street Journal, the Pentagon indicated that it may be interested in more refueling capacity than the Boeing contract is set to deliver. Officials met with potential suppliers to discuss acquiring refueling capacity on a fee-for-service basis and that the military would need 7,000 hours of such services annually, according to a draft requirements document.

Yup. Consider a 60 airplane buy, figuring acquisition per tail at $20 mil a tail for fly away cost, operation at $2,000 per hour (likely less but plan conservatively) and sustainment at $300k per tail in depot mx, logistics, training expendables and other costs (again very conservative). Program in 750 hours per tail per FY (fly it a lot) and that groks out to $90 mil in flight hour costs and $18 mil in sustainment costs, plus Murphy's Law costs (guess that at 15% extra) so that sums up to just over $124 mil. Spread the acquisition, FTU and other start up costs over 3 FYs and that's about $420 mil (add another 5% per tail when acquiring) Not chump change but affordable when you consider that if you replaced LAAR in CAPs for 4/5th Gens when you could (AOR permitting) - you come up with the money very to pay for it quickly because it is so much cheaper to fly than 4/5th Gens. At $40k per flight hour (figuring in tanker support) generically for 4/5th Gens, to get the $124 mil per FY to afford the LAAR you would need to replace about 3,100 flight hours from the 4/5th Gen fleets. But since you're not flying those fighters to do those missions, you don't need to fly those tankers so in reality its not even that many hours, split it between the fighter and the tanker and now you only need to cut 1,550 fighter and 1,550 tanker flight hours and you've found your money to pay for your new and very useful, affordable and relevant LAAR's per FY operational costs. What you would have to cut / reprogram to acquire in those 3 FYs assuming your rich uncle doesn't come thru with an unexpected windfall is the $420 mil question... likely you should retire your 5% of your oldest / brokest 4th Gens and that would likely pay for all if not most of it. Another cost saver would be to not send selectees for the LAAR program to IFF if they are not already graduates and train them in their mission fundamentals in the LAAR, frees up another slot for dudes selected for fighters. Just buy one AF... the math will work itself out, morale will improve and this will be one step towards getting your mojo back... *Posted in the naive hope someone who is important in the AF with enough authority and clout will read and realize we don't have to take an elephant rifle every time we go hunting.

On the subjects of Presidents, policy and humor: Bush 41, rest in peace sir and a job very well done.

Copy all and resignedly agreed. Still rooting for that snowball in hell though...

Agreed with all sentiments that the chance of LAAR actually happening is low and about a snowball’s chance in hell if ACC is the MAJCOM to make that call but is AFSOC still a realistic possibility to acquire a LAAR? Core functions are not technically still doctrine so could AFSOC just make a play for having another fires platform? Is there the appetite for this? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Unfortunately no but I wonder if this with the training / cooperation done with the Nigerian AF if this will influence / encourage the AF on whether or not to actually acquire our own LAAR and then if many of our allies / partners are flying A-29s, will that shut out the AT6? As the Scorpion is no longer in contention for this potential ACC led acquisition program, I am neutral-ish on the turboprop contenders but if it were up to me, I would select the AT6. LAE has finished with Dec being slated for RFPs and Sept 19 for selection. Low chance IMO but better than no chance one will be acquired. https://www.janes.com/article/82236/us-air-force-releases-timeline-for-light-attack-aircraft-procurement But it has some fans in Congress: https://www.airforcetimes.com/opinion/commentary/2018/09/09/commentary-the-us-air-force-needs-a-light-attack-aircraft/ Who the hell knows what they'll do, I was surprised when the Airbus tanker was first selected over the Boeing back 2008 and even though that lasted for about 10 seconds till Boeing protested and wrested it from Airbus it was / is an example of the AF doing the unexpected sometimes.

A-29s made by SNC selected by Nigeria and approved for sale: https://alert5.com/2018/12/01/sierra-nevada-corp-given-contract-to-supply-12-a-29s-to-nigeria/ But we still don't have one after 12+ years of "studying" it...

Worth a read on what troubles the AF: https://warontherocks.com/2018/11/heed-the-grail-knight-can-the-air-force-choose-wisely/

Yup, the XF8U-3 had some strong points, from Wiki: "NASA pilots flying at NAS Patuxent River routinely intercepted and defeated U.S. Navy Phantom IIs in mock dogfights, until complaints from the Navy put an end to the harassment." As to MD still being an independent corporation? Unsure but I suspect not, industry trends and tacit gov policy to allow consolidation probably would have had it swallowed up by Big B anyway. On the subject of 3rd Gen fighter variants: https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-f-4-phantom-could-have-had-swing-wings-1737201833

No but there is/was some similarity... namely affordability, relevance and low technical risk vs. high technical risk, ballooning costs and large support costs in acquisition, MX and AR requirements. Rogoway said it well in his article: "By having a one size fits all strategy you get a grossly expensive "overkill" force for 80% of the missions we will face, and an inadequate and design-compromised force for the extremely high-risk 20% of missions that are crucial to our nation's ability to kick down the enemy's door and quickly gain air supremacy. In other words, we give up a lot of opportunity cost, not just money, in buying a one-size-fits all high-end fighter force." A portion of the force that is affordable, no frills and focused on the Attack Mission set but capable of self-defense / air to air is what is needed. Now put billions into a modernized YA-7F...

We have that problem now with CA. The next part of my detente plan to cool the hostility in this country amongst its citizenry is to break up the larger states with now regionally politically distinct areas that are basically in opposition to each other. Look at CA, FL, VA, MN and IL: These are motley (politically) and not wisely constructed for today's cultural and political environment, harmony is what we should strive for instead of the naive, blind faith that somehow disparate groups of people who don't like each other that much will coalesce around vague concepts and get along. If instead of our current political structure that lumps people with not much in common with each other politically and economically, we had new states that allowed for the changes in the economy, growth and distribution of population and recognized that cultural change in America, we would be in more stable and functional place as a nation IMHO. There's a lot of reasons for the red v blue, rural v urban, traditional v cosmopolitan divide in this country but one of the reasons again IMHO is so many people think their voices aren't be heard. Forming new states that allow for this, just like court mandated minority-majority voting districts would at least allow their voices to be heard and also bolster local control rather than being tethered to an indifferent and aloof coastal elite.

Stealth-ish F-8 Crusader: And on concept aircraft from the F-8 / A-7 family: https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/can-we-learn-something-from-the-defunct-a-7f-strikefig-1591155307 Reading Rogoway's article, the YA-7F sounded like the F-20, great aircraft but not expensive enough for the AF so they shit-canned it. There's just a tad bit of cynicism in that sentence but really, why not look for a system that brings quality in a focused mission set and is still affordable enough to buy in quantity? Focused on the Attack Mission set but capable of self-defense / escort. Enough legs that it will not be a high consumer of AR resources. Survivable enough to augment Air Dominance packages as a missile / jammer platform. Enough Air to Air capability to perform the Air Sovereignty / Alert Mission.

Didn't know the business story of the company. Are they (new aviation startups) trying to work like tech start ups - invent or develop something valuable to the market and hope for the company or rights to the design to be bought and produced by an established, larger legacy company vs. having to take the risk of manufacturing yourself to make money? Agreed, clean lines and just look fast. Another vaporware with YF-23 inspiration: https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2017/01/kfx-gsc-single-engine-stealth-concept.html

From The WarZone: This Is What A Northrop F-23A Would've Looked Like If It Had Beaten Lockheed's F-22

Agreed. When a country that has control over its own currency and gets into a debt problem it can: - Devalue its currency thru printing money and eroding its value, repaying the debt in now less valuable notes quickly getting out of the hole but also temporarily putting its exports on sale. - Cut budgets, raise taxes and impose austerity. Politically untenable in representative democracies of late and in the USA, not likely on the table. As the world's reserve currency, we can generate a shit ton of ill will if turn on the printing press, come up with another 10 Trillion and start paying our debts in dollars effectively worth 69% less. Long term self-defeating as much of our clout and success comes from everyone holding and trading (often) in dollars. Preaching to the choir, but if we don't start the inevitable turn to living within our means the hard turn the market will force on us could lead to domestic turmoil.

So this is disturbing... U.S. on a Course to Spend More on Debt Than Defense Rising interest costs could crowd out other government spending priorities and rattle markets It's been projected before but we are getting closer and closer and are gathering speed. The penny plan seems to be the best solution (reduce spending by 1% per year and problem fixes itself in about 5 years) of the current proposals that are out there but not getting any traction. The left would not support it (not a slight at them) and the right would support it so why not meet each other half way and cover the other half with tax increases an equal amount (I would suggest elimination of deductions/credits than rate increases), and you get to the same place in about 5 years and no side gave more than the other side.

I hope not but you could be right. At this point in our story, I think it is time for a Constitutional Convention as the electoral cycle as created by the current US Constitution is not able to synchronize with or span current policy cycles in the modern United States of America and our Federal government in its representative bodies is not able to generate the levels of consensus for it to operate as designed in the current US Constitution. Stumbling from one showdown to showdown, party line vote, Continuing Resolution at the last minute is not sustainable in the long run. Less done at the Federal level but what is done at that level being done well leaves less to get screwed up and contentious. Follow on: What if the Federal Government remained essentially the tripartite system but was split with the Senate and House powers, roles and responsibilities more clearly delineated and legislation to be created and passed thru them NOT having to pass thru the other legislative body for resolution before going to the Executive for approval or veto? Hypothetically the House could pass appropriations & legislation for Agencies A,B and C to administer National Policies on Commerce, Agriculture and etc...; the Senate could pass appropriations (new power) & legislation for Agencies X, Y and Z for National Defense, Presidential Appointments, etc... Almost the same structure but without that huge step of coordination between separate legislative bodies that can and soon will be under different political party majorities, you make legislation to regularly and in a normal fashion MUCH easier to create, debate, refine and pass to allow a modern nation-state to function in an un-dramatic way.

Agreed unfortunately. When 50% of the electorate pays no income taxes they don't care about your great income tax cut you passed last year. They don't own stocks so they could give a shit what the Dow Jones is. They don't have any money to pass to their children so they don't care if there is a federal inheritance tax or not. They live day to day, paycheck to paycheck because the globalized economy transferred their places in our economies to the developed world while enriching the investor, academic and administrator class. They see this and they are right to be pissed. We (conservatives) have come to look with disdain on government action that improves the lot of the common man and expect them (the electorate) to be able to trace the good or improving things in their lives (particularly their economic circumstances) to broad national policies that you would have to connect the dots thru in a very tenuous sense. We expect a machinist in the Mid-west to see how reducing marginal tax rates on individuals making over 500k a year leads to higher investment in small business and that's why he has a job, gimme a break. We expect a dude in his 50s established in a town with a family and connections to not be resentful as hell when his job is outsourced and to see how it really serves the greater good to more efficiently source his function overseas and that creative destruction in capitalism is fine, just depends on which end of the whip your on... Conservatives can remain true to the principals of limited government and use the scale/ability of the federal government to broadly improve the lives of the working/middle class in this country. Modern conservatism in any modern advanced state with an industrial or post-industrial economy should be on limited but effective and focused national governance that excels in a few areas rather than our current model of the federal government being mediocre in a lot of areas. Use those few but well executed functions to enable and secure the largest possible middle class that is the only way a stable democracy can survive in a large and diverse country. I am not for an intrusive all encompassing federal government but the people want some basic reassurance that if they obey the law, support their families and are loyal to this country, that the federal government will give them a reasonable safety net. As conservatives, we have to accept that but deliver it in a realistic, sustainable and understandable way that does not enslave the industrious to the lazy and modestly insures the honest and hardworking from the whims of fate.