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In no way, shape, or form do I like the current CINC, or his administration, but this is so beyond stupid. It's crap like this that makes the GOP look like they're searching for any reason to belittle the President, thus hurting their own cause. There could be any number of reasons for the way people were in there. Pure speculation that hits no nail or even the board the nail was going in to. Talk about pandering to crazy old white men... Keep this crap up, and you might as well hand the dems a third term in the WH. ETA: there's about a thousand legit reasons to critique the guy. Why go after a made up one? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Playboy wasn't already considered "adult". Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Agreed, but here's the rub, the leaders going to these boards need to know what that crap means. I mean, is it possible to have a generic rundown of all the career fields before stepping in to a board to determine someone's future? Is that overly ambitious? I'm not saying the #1 dude at finance school, or space and missile school, or MX officer, etc aren't fast burners, but there's no way around the fact that the level of work required at UPT is less than any school out there with the exception of SOF maybe. None (I'll admit, only to my knowledge) of the other schools have as high a bar for min-running as UPT. Basically, you can't min-run it, unless things have changed in the last ten years. Tolerances for mistakes are not possible after your first mulligan, and rightly so. I'm not saying pilots are better than everyone else, but with the occasional exception (heck, look at me) poor performers don't get through UPT. They may ease off afterwards and become total wastes of space, but it's safe to say a DG out of UPT is unlikely to fall into that category. Same arguments can be made for WIC, although in Rescue they seem to either be D-bags, or turn into D-bags upon graduation. Maybe that's changed as some recent names going through give me hope. Used to be you had to force a guy to WIC, but that's a sidebar. It's staring us in the face, and it's been said again and again. AFSC specific boards, at least through O-4 are a pretty easy solution. Anyway, my $.02. I've been wrong before. Once. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

You can't possibly believe that?! You're just trying to stir the pot right? If this guy runs anything we're all hosed.

Got me. I'd never seen it in Japan or Korea drawn that way, but that obviously doesnt mean it wasn't. One last point, pretty much the only people that don't know the swastika did not originate with the Nazi party, or does not have a much deeper meaning than the twisted meaning the Nazi's applied to it are ignorant. So, yeah, same deal with "Don't tread on me". We have some ignorant people ignoring, or too ignorant for history that think it only applies to Tea Baggers. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Sorry, but from people that I've talked with who knew him "way back when", he's always been a prick. This money grubbing, and wife aren't the culprits. National icon, yes, good dude, no. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Actually, you're wrong. The Nazi swastika and the Buddhist swastika are inverted. I see the point you're making, but make it correctly, or you look like my 10 year old who knows a tiny bit of everything, so he thinks he knows it all. Then I tell him nobody likes a know-it-all... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

I like it on the motorcycle for rainy days.

Guys, need some prayers their way.

I think your intent was pretty obvious. I think SA was pretty low and sensitivity was high on the post you just replied to.

Once again, not trying to take away from Luttrell's past actions... Have you read the book? The only people that can stand it are people that have never been around an actual SEAL. Why shouldn't a phony portray him? His book is so stuffed full of BS bravado it's laughable. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Tell me again how you would have done the mission to pick up the Apache pilots... Oh yeah, you wouldn't have been able to. We could do this all day. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Neat trick. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. ;) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD I think it's that we're the only ones that see through the "secret-squirrel-air-commando-smokescreen" that they put out to hide the fact that its real mission set, tactical transport, as flown by the Marines has already been found. I'll grant it has some amazing capabilities that go right next to some pretty big drawbacks. Besides, it's friendly community ball busting. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

It's a valid question. You tell someone to consider the mission, it should be clear what that mission is. Just bustin' your balls. I know it's so secret you can't say on here. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

They taught me, so it can't be that hard... I'm not sure though because I fly with my eyes closed half the time! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Just saw this. Can't tell if serious or not. Maybe I'm too tired... I guess things have changed quite a bit because I guess 90% of us were absolutely stupid. Tree and roof tops were the order of the day. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Holy crap! That's a woman with some serious problems...

Don't skip over the part where we say you need to be aware of the consequences. This is a potential consequence, but since senior leadership appears unwilling to do anything substantial to change the way things currently are working, it's on us middle of the road bubbas, and the young cats to do it. I hope Liquid is as sincere with his words as he seems, but so far the rest of the guys up there with him refuse to care, or so it appears. Heck, even Liquid is having trouble grasping the fact that the way it stands now, AADs have simply become an additional duty that adds virtually nothing to an AF officer (exceptions already listed ad nauseam), and takes away tons of tactical expertise. Sometimes reading the back and forth between he and Rusty becomes painful because they, for the most part, simply keep repeating the same things over and over again, worded slightly different. Gotta read it anyway because a few golden nuggets are hidden in there. Edit: ad nauseam, not nausea Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

I had to do this in CA for an Army base. Army guys were the ones forcing it. In six months I went on base with my car maybe 5 times. Next time, I'll park outside and walk...

Yeah, we're on the same page. I'll never tell guys what to do one way or the other, but I will make sure they understand the potential consequences of whatever path they choose. I just wish there were a way to organize them all into a way to just ignore the AAD. The penthouse offices would have to take notice if nobody does it anymore. They can't NOT promote everyone. Anyone willing to take it to the CGOC...? Sorry, I forgot, anyone who's a member probably loves the AAD requirement anyway. ETA: While my above suggestion was tongue-in-cheek, the leadership would definitely notice if they all of a sudden had a more professional, tactical expert force.

Now I just feel like you're screwing with everyone. Maybe my sarcasm detector is inop, but are you really saying, "eh, just do it anyway. Why bother fighting it?" I agree that there's a chance you're screwing yourself over if you don't do it, and you can say all you want that the only reason I'm saying, "roll the dice," is because it worked out for me, but I didn't know it would at the time. I just always accepted the fact that it might not work out for promotion, but I wasn't wasting time on other crap that would make me less of a tactical expert than I should be. Your post is an example of why it will never change. Ugh...

I don't think you've ever done it at 50-100'... Different story unless you're just full of it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Tactical low level, at night, or BFM is just a bit different than the airlines. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

I agree that flying forever isn't realistic or safe. I'm not just talking about that. The CC's I've had don't work easy hours. I don't believe anyone in a staff job should be focusing on a bogus or otherwise degree. My point was that AAD's take everyone's focus off their real mission, whatever that is at that time. I'm 100% willing to work late nights for the mission be it flying or staff or whatever, take crap TDY's, deployments if it's necessary etc., but once you say "do all that plus get a degree" is when I say, "no thanks." If the AF decides it no longer requires my services because I wasn't willing to do that, so be it. That's not the AF I signed up for, and there will be plenty of boot licks willing to take my place. I'm nothing special, but the AF will lose a hard worker, and someone who cared. I'll find a job doing something, and my family will be happy. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Don't have experience with that program, but it seems like that one should be one of the only ones with any real weight. Outside of a brick and mortar university that is, but who can be good at their real job, do a real degree, deploy, go TDY, and keep a family healthy at the same time? Maybe I'm way off base here, but it's just not realistic unless you sacrifice your family or sanity (for single types). Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

IMHO, until someone can show some concrete proof that the AAD's people are getting actually do the Air Force any good, it shouldn't be a requirement at anytime. At best, you're getting someone who is only slightly wasting his time. At worst, you're taking someone's attention and focus (at every level O-3, O-4, or O-5) away from their primary job to force them to prove they "care about being promoted" and nothing else. Then add in the stress that the lost time contributes to family life, and you get disgruntled individuals. I have zero AAD. I started 3 times and each time I couldn't stomach the garbage, so I stopped and put my focus where it belonged. The mission. Somehow I got picked up for school, and I even got an incredible push from my SR. When my current boss told me I needed to get my AAD now to be competitive I politely told him that I wouldn't be doing it. I even asked him if he thought it was legit, or just for box-checking to be promotable. You wouldn't like his answer. Nice guy, but drunk on kool aid. If I still am able to continue pushing up the line without my AAD (I firmly believe in PME, even if correspondence is stupid just to do in residence), I will continue to fight against AAD's until I get fired for it. When will senior leadership realize that AAD's are ZERO ADDED VALUE? Caveat: you send someone to a real school somewhere for a real degree, but then we're talking IDE aren't we? Good points. I was typing when you did that up. Again though, we're talking apples and oranges AADs. Real and applicable to careerfield vs. diploma mill in order to promote. Thanks for the insight.