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Currently flying T-1. Haven't gotten anything yet, but it would be an 11R gig. I'm former JSTARS, but could just as easily do RC-135 or E-3.

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1. Stay at current location to finish commitment, potentially with a nice 365 thrown in.

How is this an option if you 7 day opt? Your chain of command has nothing to do with a 365. It's all managed at AFPC based on STRD. All your command could do is protect you with a DAV code. You're don't even compete with guys at your base for a 365, it's all down range requirements and STRD's thrown into a spreadsheet.

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How is this an option if you 7 day opt? Your chain of command has nothing to do with a 365. It's all managed at AFPC based on STRD. All your command could do is protect you with a DAV code. You're don't even compete with guys at your base for a 365, it's all down range requirements and STRD's thrown into a spreadsheet.

Very naive. I've seen too many bros get shacked with a 365 or a 179 after 7-day opting, completing their command tour or getting within 1.5 years of retirement. Someone at AFPC is looking at a lot more that STRD, because those numbers were all over the place - some ancient and some fairly recent. The thing they all had in common? It was little/no ability to say no.

7-day opting can leave you with 1.5 years of ADSC remaining. I've seen one 365 and a slew of 179s thrown at dudes in that exact situation.

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Very naive. I've seen too many bros get shacked with a 365 or a 179 after 7-day opting, completing their command tour or getting within 1.5 years of retirement. Someone at AFPC is looking at a lot more that STRD, because those numbers were all over the place - some ancient and some fairly recent. The thing they all had in common? It was little/no ability to say no.

7-day opting can leave you with 1.5 years of ADSC remaining. I've seen one 365 and a slew of 179s thrown at dudes in that exact situation.

Look at what you said, all of those dudes are hot for 365's because of their STRD.

Completing command: probably a dude with an STRD of 13-15yrs ago, that's assuming at least 2yrs worth of overseas TDY's/deployments. If he was prior enlisted then he's lucky he made it that far. While in command he probably had a DAV code. When his command ended they took it off, unless he was frocked or headed to school. Either way, if he made O-6 he wouldn't gotten a wonderful OG/CC 365 anyways, cause the price of O-6 nowadays...but I digress.

Within 1.5 years of retirement: you're fücked here cause your STRD is definitely 16.5yrs ago (again with the assumption of overseas TDY's/deployments I mentioned). These are the dudes most likely to get it.

This is only for 365's, for the 179's those are 100% at the discretion of the commander. So they can choose who they give it to. For a dude 1.5yrs from retirement, it's probably best to take a 179 cause you can take it and get back within your window that you can't be tasked with a 365 and then just drop papers.

But again, it depends on requirements. For awhile I knew a lot of O-3's who had the safety and IP boxes checked, and those were the requirements to teach pilot training at somewhere even shittier and sandier than Laughlin. And almost every prior E got tagged because their STRD is even farther back because of their date of enlistment.

I hear it's worse for 11Fs cause you go to Korea and all that other stuff as a PCS, which doesn't count towards changing your STRD. Which is why an 11F, O-5 with that background will almost always get tagged unless they can get the coveted DAV code.

I'm not pressing the I believe big blue button, cause I know the AF is full of lies, deception, and bull shit. This is all straight from the assignments officer who was in charge of 365's and the previous functional who did it 5yrs ago. Sure the 2nd guy's info is out of date, but the other dude said all of this but a few months ago. So take it for what it's worth.

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The 365 and at least two 179s (I know, they are handled differently) went to guys less than 5 years removed from Korea. It's just a fact - AFPC and commanders shack people that they can.

Korea does reset our STRD.

ETA: buddy of mine is finishing up his command tour. The functional contacted him to see what he would do if hit with a particular 365. His answer was that he'd 7-day opt. Several of his peers said the same. Eventually someone was enticed with a good deal in the backside and "volunteered" for it. Interesting change from the porch - are they realizing they can't keep bleeding several bodies to fill one BS tasker? Or are they treating him differently as a graduated CC? He dodged one bullet but is ready to punch and finish up in the guard if need be.

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A normal remote PCS (like Korea) is different than the 365s. They can't by name shack you for a Korea if you 7-day. They legally have to run a non-vol list that ranks everyone vulnerable for and qualified for that assignment based on STRD.

But if the wing gets tasked with a 179 to the Died, I'm sure a guy who just 7-day'd with 1.5 years left is going to be relatively high on the wing's list.

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On 7/25/2015 at 7:34 PM, Napoleon_Tanerite said:

I'm planning on going down this road, but want to make sure I understand it properly. I have an ADSC that is up in Apr 2018. If they try to tag me with an assignment that has a RNLTD of Apr 2106 or later I can opt due to the two year PCS ADSC that would take me beyond my existing ADSC?

I’ve heard conflicting info, and just wanted to make sure this explanation is correct in how the 7-day opt works?

In other words, is the ability to 7-day opt based upon the date when the orders have you RNLT to said base (inside the 2 year window), or is it based upon the date when the official notification hits your in-container?

Thanks. 

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2 hours ago, WheelsOff said:

I’ve heard conflicting info, and just wanted to make sure this explanation is correct in how the 7-day opt works?

In other words, is the ability to 7-day opt based upon the date when the orders have you RNLT to said base (inside the 2 year window), or is it based upon the date when the official notification hits your in-container?

Thanks. 

It is indeed RNLTD.  My story concluded with me getting an assignment with a June '16 RNLTD, I dropped the 7 day option, enjoyed the good life for a year, caught a non-flying "gee i can't understand why all the pilots are leaving" 6 month going away tour in CENTCOM, and now I'm a free man.

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5 hours ago, Napoleon_Tanerite said:

It is indeed RNLTD.  My story concluded with me getting an assignment with a June '16 RNLTD, I dropped the 7 day option, enjoyed the good life for a year, caught a non-flying "gee i can't understand why all the pilots are leaving" 6 month going away tour in CENTCOM, and now I'm a free man.

Solid. Were you at least able to come back from said 179 and still get some currency in the jet before departing?

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On 7/26/2015 at 12:44 PM, Herkasaurus said:

Look at what you said, all of those dudes are hot for 365's because of their STRD.

 

Completing command: probably a dude with an STRD of 13-15yrs ago, that's assuming at least 2yrs worth of overseas TDY's/deployments. If he was prior enlisted then he's lucky he made it that far. While in command he probably had a DAV code. When his command ended they took it off, unless he was frocked or headed to school. Either way, if he made O-6 he wouldn't gotten a wonderful OG/CC 365 anyways, cause the price of O-6 nowadays...but I digress.

 

Within 1.5 years of retirement: you're fücked here cause your STRD is definitely 16.5yrs ago (again with the assumption of overseas TDY's/deployments I mentioned). These are the dudes most likely to get it.

 

This is only for 365's, for the 179's those are 100% at the discretion of the commander. So they can choose who they give it to. For a dude 1.5yrs from retirement, it's probably best to take a 179 cause you can take it and get back within your window that you can't be tasked with a 365 and then just drop papers.

 

But again, it depends on requirements. For awhile I knew a lot of O-3's who had the safety and IP boxes checked, and those were the requirements to teach pilot training at somewhere even shittier and sandier than Laughlin. And almost every prior E got tagged because their STRD is even farther back because of their date of enlistment.

 

I hear it's worse for 11Fs cause you go to Korea and all that other stuff as a PCS, which doesn't count towards changing your STRD. Which is why an 11F, O-5 with that background will almost always get tagged unless they can get the coveted DAV code.

 

I'm not pressing the I believe big blue button, cause I know the AF is full of lies, deception, and bull shit. This is all straight from the assignments officer who was in charge of 365's and the previous functional who did it 5yrs ago. Sure the 2nd guy's info is out of date, but the other dude said all of this but a few months ago. So take it for what it's worth.

Did your functional say anything about deploying for 45 days continuously putting you at the bottom of the 365 list for five years? That's what we're hearing from our side now.

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7 hours ago, WheelsOff said:

Solid. Were you at least able to come back from said 179 and still get some currency in the jet before departing?

Ya, I had about 3 months left, so I flew my ass off and banked about 100hrs.  It was actually the good life-- I only showed up to work when I was on the flying schedule, what were they going to do?  Fire me?

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