1 hour ago, Seriously said:

F-16 final base is determined during the B-course. Sometime just after the halfway point, the assignments drop to your class then the students divy up the assignments however they please.

My apologies, I worded that poorly. Following UPT, I've noticed a lot of TBD to figure out where they're going for B-Course. Was curious if that delay was to figure out where they're going for B-course and if there was a backup.

Edited November 17, 20196 yr by elvis

38 minutes ago, elvis said:

My apologies, I worded that poorly. Following UPT, I've noticed a lot of TBD to figure out where they're going for B-Course. Was curious if that delay was to figure out where they're going for B-course and if there was a backup.

AFPC for the most part just hands the drop list for F-16s under the TBD box. There are still boxes for Luke, Holloman, Kelly, Tucson, but they usually are 0 slots.

I think it’s because AETC/A1 & AFPC/DP2OR just do a faces in spaces after assignment night for SERE/IFF/B-course after and it’s easier to not assign a location until everything else can be flowed.

CAFB drop night

C-17 McCord
F-16 TBD

KC-135 reserve Grissom 

T-6 FAIP CAFB

C-17 Charleston 

U-28 Hulbert

AWACS Tinker

F-16 TBD

C-17 Charleston 

T-38 FAIP CAFB

C-21 Scott

F-35 Luke 

 

KEND 20-06
T-1 C-17 Charleston
T-1 KC-135 MacDill
T-1 E-8 Robins AFB
T-1 C-17 Dover AFRC
T-1 C-17 McChord
T-38 F-15C Kingsley
T-1 C-130J Rammstein
T-1 C-17 March AFRC
T-1 C-17 McChord
T-38 F-16 Luke
T-38 f-16 Luke
T-1 C-130J Dyess
T-1 E-8 Robins AFRC
T-38 f-15e SJ
T-1 KC-135 Forbes ANG
T-38 B-1 Dyess
T-1 KC-135 Fairchild
T-38 F-16 Luke
T-1 KC-135 Fairchild

KEND 20-07
T-1 KC-135 Sioux City ANG
T-1 C-17 Wright Patt (AFRC?)
T-1 KC-135 Fairchild
T-1 KC-135 McConnell
T-38 F-16 Luke
T-38 F-35 Luke
T-1 C-130J Yokota
T-38 F-16 Luke
T-38 F-15C Kingsley
T-1 KC-10 Travis

 

KDLF 20-08/09 Drop

T-1

C-17 x 6 (1/Pittsburgh(AFRC) - 2/Charleston - 2/McChord - 2/Elmendorf(ANG))

C-5 (Dover AFB)

C-130J x 4 (2/Yakota – 1/Dyess – 1/Little Rock)

KC-135 x 4 (1/March ARB – 1/MacDill – 1/Salt Lake – 1/Lincoln)

T-1 (Laughlin AFB)

T-6 (Laughlin AFB)

E-3 (Tinker AFB)

T-38

U-28 (Hurlburt Field)

AC-130J (Hurlburt Field)

F-35 (Luke AFB)

T-38 (Laughlin AFB)

T-6 (Laughlin AFB)

C-21 (Scott AFB)

F-16 x 4 (TBD)

F-15E (Seymour)

 

On 2/15/2020 at 9:24 AM, PTM.24 said:

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T-38

C-21 (Scott AFB)

 

I can't remember that happening in quite a while. Gucci assignment, hopefully they get a good follow on. 

 

 

 

21 hours ago, Richard_Butte said:

 

There's a 0% chance that's accurate.

Edited February 21, 20205 yr by dmginc

Ignore the 3rd grade MS paint skills. KDLF 20-14/15

I thought we booted out of training all of the saudi douchebags

6 hours ago, bfargin said:

I thought we booted out of training all of the saudi douchebags

They were grounded for a couple months but they're back in training

Ignore the 3rd grade MS paint skills. KDLF 20-14/15

That slides title font is really something to behold; I’m surprised they didn’t use Wingdings...

Fat Amy showing up

KSPS 20-03
A-10 Maryland ANG
A-10 Davis-Monthan x3
B-52 Barksdale
B-1 Dyess
E-3 Tinker
F-16 TBD
F-15C Kingsley
F-22 Eglin x2
F-35 Luke
T-38C Sheppard x2
C-130 Belgium
F-16 Belgium x5
Tornado Germany x2
Eurofighter Germany

KSPS 20-04
A-10 ANG
A-10 
B-1
F-15C
F-15E x2
F-16 x3
F-22
F-35 x2
MC-130
T-6 FAIP
T-38C FAIP
Eurofighter x6 (Spain, UK, Germany)
Tornado Germany
F/A-18 Spain

KSPS 20-05
A-10 Whiteman ANG
B-1 Dyess
B-52 x2 Barksdale
F-15E x2 Seymour-Johnson  
F-16 x2 TBD
F-35 x4 TBD
T-6 FAIP
T-38C FAIP
F-16 x2 Netherlands 
F-16 Turkey
F-35 Netherlands
T-38C Belgium

How do drops work these days with the new class structure?


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Anybody have access to old UPT syllabi? Trying to track down a copy of the one that would have been in place when I went through KCBM as a student in 2011-2012.

20-16/17

DLF

C-17 JBLM

T-6 Laughlin

U-28 Hurlburt

KC-135 McConnell

C-17 Travis

MC-130J Kirtland

RC-135 Offutt

T-6 Laughlin

C-5 Dover

C-130H Cheyenne ANGB

C-5 Westover ARB

KC-135 Macdill

C-146 Duke

F-15E Seymour Johnson

C-130 Channel Islands ANGB

C-17 Charleston

C-17 McGuire

E-8 Robins

KC-135 Fairchild

U-28 Hurlburt

RC-135 Offutt

 

CBM

C-17 Travis

C-130J Dyess x2

T-1 Columbus

C-17 McGuire

C-17 Charleston

KC-135 Fairchild

KC-135 Birmingham AL ANG

HC-130J Moody

C-17 Charlotte NC ANG x2

KC-10 McGuire

C-130J Little Rock x2

C-17 McChord

MC-130J Kirtland

T-6 Columbus

F-35 Luke

C-130H Dobbins ARB

C-17 Dover

 

Question for the audience from a lowly T-1 stud - are the last drops of the year better or worse on average? FAIPs are saying it’s gonna be fire. Last drop of FY20 scheduled to be Aug 20 for classes 20-22/23

26 minutes ago, Ch33s3 said:

Question for the audience from a lowly T-1 stud - are the last drops of the year better or worse on average? FAIPs are saying it’s gonna be fire. Last drop of FY20 scheduled to be Aug 20 for classes 20-22/23

They're average.  Personally never noticed any big swing one way or the other.

5 hours ago, Ch33s3 said:

Question for the audience from a lowly T-1 stud - are the last drops of the year better or worse on average? FAIPs are saying it’s gonna be fire. Last drop of FY20 scheduled to be Aug 20 for classes 20-22/23

My class was the last of the fiscal year, and I remember us frantically trying to figure out what exactly that meant.  Our's wasn't great in the T-38 side, but the T-1 guys got a fair number of good deals.  After watching drops at a UPT base for five years, it doesn't matter, it's all smoke and mirrors.   We've tried to look at it from every angle, to include some guys with PhDs from Rand with a little too much time on their hands trying to crack the code if you will, and the only trend is a the lack of a trend.  Some classes have a great drop, others are terrible three weeks later. All luck and timing.  Prepare for every flight like it'll make the difference, throw in your dream sheet and see what happens.  

6 hours ago, Ch33s3 said:

20-16/17

DLF

C-17 JBLM

T-6 Laughlin

U-28 Hurlburt

KC-135 McConnell

C-17 Travis

MC-130J Kirtland

RC-135 Offutt

T-6 Laughlin

C-5 Dover

C-130H Cheyenne ANGB

C-5 Westover ARB

KC-135 Macdill

C-146 Duke

F-15E Seymour Johnson

C-130 Channel Islands ANGB

C-17 Charleston

C-17 McGuire

E-8 Robins

KC-135 Fairchild

U-28 Hurlburt

RC-135 Offutt

 

CBM

C-17 Travis

C-130J Dyess x2

T-1 Columbus

C-17 McGuire

C-17 Charleston

KC-135 Fairchild

KC-135 Birmingham AL ANG

HC-130J Moody

C-17 Charlotte NC ANG x2

KC-10 McGuire

C-130J Little Rock x2

C-17 McChord

MC-130J Kirtland

T-6 Columbus

F-35 Luke

C-130H Dobbins ARB

C-17 Dover

 

Question for the audience from a lowly T-1 stud - are the last drops of the year better or worse on average? FAIPs are saying it’s gonna be fire. Last drop of FY20 scheduled to be Aug 20 for classes 20-22/23

Are T-38s and T-1s dropping together or separate now?

7 hours ago, Vimix22 said:

Are T-38s and T-1s dropping together or separate now?

I’d be hard pressed to find a T-1 stud that tracked a F-35 or F-15E in those drops 😉

Edited June 14, 20205 yr by Finch

20 hours ago, Finch said:

I’d be hard pressed to find a T-1 stud that tracked a F-35 or F-15E in those drops 😉

Yeah...but 2 fighters (well, kind of) over 2 classes and 2 bases...ouch.

On 5/23/2020 at 10:17 PM, mcbush said:

Anybody have access to old UPT syllabi? Trying to track down a copy of the one that would have been in place when I went through KCBM as a student in 2011-2012.

Guys at Randolph are your best bet, but in case no one else answers, here's one from 2004. https://web.archive.org/web/20120329111254/https://www.t6driver.com/jsupt/jppt_jsupt_syllabus.pdf

If CBM has a historian he/she should be able to track it down.

Not sure if bases are keeping historians around anymore or not.

On 6/15/2020 at 5:26 AM, Inertia17 said:

Yeah...but 2 fighters (well, kind of) over 2 classes and 2 bases...ouch.

38s at Vance have been dropping with the T-1s in an 'on again, off again' fashion.  Just depends on how far behind they are at any given point in time.

Edited June 19, 20205 yr by dmginc
typo

On 6/13/2020 at 7:22 PM, Ch33s3 said:

FAIPs are saying it’s gonna be fire.

This is advanced tactical knowledge for FAIPs

Slightly off topic question, are zaps still a thing? I feel like I don't see too many new ones around in the last few years.