Dude, we have come completely 360* full circle on this issue....

I can still remember the day, as a 1Lt maybe 10 or 12 years ago when the OG said "If the air force wants you to get a masters, we will send you to AFIT/whatever"...that was awesome for my free time allocation decision matrix...

4 years later they sent a PDSM giving us i think 16-18 months headsup that they were unmasking degrees for the 2008 majors board...

All i'm saying is, buyer beware on this whole BS....i'd put money on the whole thing going the same direction in the next 4 years.

The AAD elephant is institutional and its going to take a while to change people's way of thinking. Example, I recently did a career day where OTS cadets get to talk to someone in their AFSCs for a while about what their job will be like. A cadet asked whether he should start a masters degree now before he got to pilot training since "he had some time" (was going to be casual for several months). My answer was no way, the CSAF said that's not important and if you're worrying about a masters going through UPT your're ######ing up. All 3 O-5s in the room told him it was a good idea to get it started and his thinking was good. Its gonna take awhile, I just hope that Welsh can position a successor that has similar ideas to his about whats important in the AF.

Hmmmm, I think there has been rumblings on this forum the next CSAF might be a female and not a flyer. Different ideas on the horizon. I think the AF could use a bit of change.

Hmmmm, I think there has been rumblings on this forum the next CSAF might be a female and not a flyer. Different ideas on the horizon. I think the AF could use a bit of change.

https://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/107934/general-janet-c-wolfenbarger.aspx

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I sure hope not. A warfighting organization needs a warfighter as a leader, not an administrator. That's what the SECAF position is for.

https://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/107934/general-janet-c-wolfenbarger.aspx

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I don't see it.

This one?

https://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/108119/general-lori-j-robinson.aspx

Our next CSAF should be the best warrior/leader we have; period, dot. That should be the only qualification.

Wait! They need to be great actors too, so they can smile at congress when they really want to throat punch them!

https://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/107934/general-janet-c-wolfenbarger.aspx

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That's a dude who has done all his PME via correspondence. Except for his 2nd masters, which I suppose is the SDE equivalent since it was at the National Defense Univ in national resource strategy...specific to acquisitions methinks? Or it's a masters in recycling, I'll google it later when I give a shit. Granted his first masters at MIT in aerospace/aeronautical engineering is impressive, but what could he possibly bring to the table other than an 80's pompadour?

That's a dude who has done all his PME via correspondence. Except for his 2nd masters, which I suppose is the SDE equivalent since it was at the National Defense Univ in national resource strategy...specific to acquisitions methinks? Or it's a masters in recycling, I'll google it later when I give a shit. Granted his first masters at MIT in aerospace/aeronautical engineering is impressive, but what could he possibly bring to the table other than an 80's pompadour?

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Mark the tape: Gen Lori Robinson will be the next CSAF.

Mark the tape: Gen Lori Robinson will be the next CSAF.

We could definitely do worse... a lot worse.

I heard it was gonna be McDew.

I heard it was gonna be McDew.

Then God help us and starting working your exit plans yesterday.

I heard it was gonna be McDew.

If so, then retired Gen Handy should sit in the front row of that ceremony and give him the "I'm watching you" look. Handy is like McDew kryptonite.

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Sorry, my sarcasm may have been applied too heavily....I realize the bio says it's a woman. However when you look at that "woman" it's quite difficult to tell.

McDew or Selva will be the next CSAF.

We could definitely do worse... a lot worse.

Yeah, put another Herk guy in charge.

I still think the PR value of the first female USAFA grad as CSAF is too good to pass up. Add that to the current SECAF and we're shattering the glass ceiling.

My guess: Robinson or Rand as next CSAF, with odds slightly in Robinson's favor. But what does this have to with promotions or PRFs…? New "next CSAF" thread perhaps?

My money is on Selva. God forbid if it's McDew. Pray that it's not McDew. The earth will implode if it's McDew.

My guess: Robinson or Rand as next CSAF, with odds slightly in Robinson's favor. But what does this have to with promotions or PRFs…? New "next CSAF" thread perhaps?

A non-pilot? Nope. Plus she's junior to all the other potentials. My money is on Selva.

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Does anyone have the timeline info from when the 2004 Maj board convened to when the results were posted and pin on began?

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Board: Dec 12, first pin on: Jan 14.

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Last pin on: Not yet. That year group will be major selects for longer than they were second lieutenants.

Who is McDew, I'm not familiar?

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