Israel strikes Tehran

[waveshaper]

3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Hearkens back to the Blitz in WW2. 

Interestingly Hezbollah has not fired a single shot at Israel!

The attack on the hospital may be a tipping point, pictures now show the Iranians used cluster munitions on the hospital.

 

I'm not convinced that the first photo is a submunition for a number of reasons. It could possibly be one of many (20 or so) Ballistic Missile Warhead - Deployable Penetration AIDs/Decoys? 

[uhhello]

1 hour ago, BFM this said:

Yes, but I think you're thinking of the other classic: Missile Command

Exactly right.  

[ClearedHot]

2 hours ago, waveshaper said:

I'm not convinced that the first photo is a submunition for a number of reasons. It could possibly be one of many (20 or so) Ballistic Missile Warhead - Deployable Penetration AIDs/Decoys? 

Nope....at least from the updated picture.

 

[ClearedHot]

Within the last hour the IDF targeted Ali Khamenei's bunker in the mountains possibly eliminating all of the 30 senior leaders of the IRGC.

 

[Lawman]

Within the last hour the IDF targeted Ali Khamenei's bunker in the mountains possibly eliminating all of the 30 senior leaders of the IRGC.

 

Dare to dream…



This would be great considering all their staffers are having to “work from home” the last 36 hours or so.

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[wikz]

 

 

[uhhello]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

Within the last hour the IDF targeted Ali Khamenei's bunker in the mountains possibly eliminating all of the 30 senior leaders of the IRGC.

 

That was reporting confirming the initial nights strike.  It was worded very strange as he was speaking it.  They did strike near the dearest supreme leaders suspected location again apparently.

Edited Thursday at 08:43 PM by uhhello

[ClearedHot]

2 hours ago, uhhello said:

That was reporting confirming the initial nights strike.  It was worded very strange as he was speaking it.  They did strike near the dearest supreme leaders suspected location again apparently.

Yeah I think I know what happened.  I was watching Tousi TV on Youtube (Highly recommend dude has family including his father in Iran), when it came up as breaking news.  I think the IDF confirmed the strike and everyone took it as it just happened when it happened early on.  There is another report that Israel set up a hotline for the seniors and they thought it was the Iranian command authority telling them about a safe place to go, it was a trick to get them all in one spot.

A few other hanging reports:

No comms with for 12+ hours, some believe he was targeted...some say he is dead but not confirmed.

Another report says Mahmoud Ahmadinejad narrowly escaped an assassination attempt.  No word on if it was Mossad or internal Iranians.
 

[uhhello]

13 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Yeah I think I know what happened.  I was watching Tousi TV on Youtube (Highly recommend dude has family including his father in Iran), when it came up as breaking news.  I think the IDF confirmed the strike and everyone took it as it just happened when it happened early on.  There is another report that Israel set up a hotline for the seniors and they thought it was the Iranian command authority telling them about a safe place to go, it was a trick to get them all in one spot.

A few other hanging reports:

No comms with for 12+ hours, some believe he was targeted...some say he is dead but not confirmed.

Another report says Mahmoud Ahmadinejad narrowly escaped an assassination attempt.  No word on if it was Mossad or internal Iranians.
 

Submunitions confirmed as well
https://www.twz.com/land/iran-just-used-ballistic-missiles-with-cluster-warheads-to-strike-israel?fbclid=IwY2xjawLBcwBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETF2QVlRSDJmTXdmc1A4UDB1AR4tfsdH30TmZDIaFxfiayKy9VOfXtn5Jjp1J-4sjc-P6TcqdmeXdfbRUgIn6w_aem_gYDUh9vjLiJOXLNFu-RoBA

[waveshaper]

1 hour ago, uhhello said:

Submunitions confirmed as well
https://www.twz.com/land/iran-just-used-ballistic-missiles-with-cluster-warheads-to-strike-israel?fbclid=IwY2xjawLBcwBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETF2QVlRSDJmTXdmc1A4UDB1AR4tfsdH30TmZDIaFxfiayKy9VOfXtn5Jjp1J-4sjc-P6TcqdmeXdfbRUgIn6w_aem_gYDUh9vjLiJOXLNFu-RoBA

One interesting tidbit from this detailed article:  

"Layering ballistic missiles with cluster munition payloads in larger salvos with other types carrying unitary warheads might also help create a decoy-like effect to further overwhelm an opponent’s defenses.

With this in mind, while the specific circumstances are still unknown, it is worth noting that the interception rate during Iran’s particularly destructive missile barrage on Israel this morning was notably lower than what had been seen in previous" salvos. A variety of other factors beyond the inclusion of cluster munition warheads could have played a role, as well.

[ClearedHot]

10 hours ago, waveshaper said:

One interesting tidbit from this detailed article:  

"Layering ballistic missiles with cluster munition payloads in larger salvos with other types carrying unitary warheads might also help create a decoy-like effect to further overwhelm an opponent’s defenses.

With this in mind, while the specific circumstances are still unknown, it is worth noting that the interception rate during Iran’s particularly destructive missile barrage on Israel this morning was notably lower than what had been seen in previous" salvos. A variety of other factors beyond the inclusion of cluster munition warheads could have played a role, as well.

Not sure how accurate that depiction is.  Cluster munitions on TBMs are usually deployed endgame (inside 20,000'), that would be a very late intercept for many of these systems.

[waveshaper]

2 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Not sure how accurate that depiction is.  Cluster munitions on TBMs are usually deployed endgame (inside 20,000'), that would be a very late intercept for many of these systems.

Yep, the only layer of air defense remaining at this altitude is the Iron Dome (which really wasn't designed to take out incoming ballistic missile warheads). Those tracking/trying to intercept this particular incoming warhead (last ditch effort) might have suddenly had 20 more targets on their radarscope.

"The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Home Front Command says the warhead on the missile in question split open at an altitude of approximately 23,000 feet (seven kilometers) and released an estimated 20 submunitions/scattered across an area approximately 10 miles (16 kilometers) in diameter." 

[fire4effect]

20 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Within the last hour the IDF targeted Ali Khamenei's bunker in the mountains possibly eliminating all of the 30 senior leaders of the IRGC.

 

[uhhello]

Would love to see the Israeli ground assault plan for Fordo.  2 weeks is a long time for Israel. 

[fire4effect]

34 minutes ago, uhhello said:

Would love to see the Israeli ground assault plan for Fordo.  2 weeks is a long time for Israel. 

Atomic demolition munition - Wikipedia

I wouldn't be surprised if Israel has something like this. Place this on the bottom floor set the timer and watch to make sure it goes off then call it a day. Leaving the underground facility Chernobyl irradiated for the next 1000 years would be a bonus IMHO.

I'm sure Trump has no intention on waiting 2 weeks before he acts. He's just keeping it vague on a timeline.

[McJay Pilot]

12 minutes ago, fire4effect said:

Atomic demolition munition - Wikipedia

I wouldn't be surprised if Israel has something like this. Place this on the bottom floor set the timer and watch to make sure it goes off then call it a day. Leaving the underground facility Chernobyl irradiated for the next 1000 years would be a bonus IMHO.

I'm sure Trump has no intention on waiting 2 weeks before he acts. He's just keeping it vague on a timeline.

On that note, join me for some Tin foil hat time… Iran just had a 5.2 earthquake. Underground nuke detonations are in that range. I’m not sayin, I’m just sayin…

[uhhello]

9 minutes ago, McJay Pilot said:

On that note, join me for some Tin foil hat time… Iran just had a 5.2 earthquake. Underground nuke detonations are in that range. I’m not sayin, I’m just sayin…

There has been a few of those since they started striking centered around their nuke facilities.  

[disgruntledemployee]

With Trump/surrogates announcing/peddling a 2 week taco, I think he's hoping Israel can mop this up and he can walk out, hands open waist high, claim victory and peace in the same sentence, work a weave or 3, and look like it was his plan all along.  His goal, happy MAGA, Iran defeated.

I don't think he gets both.  He's along for the ride.

[uhhello]

Would love to see the phase flow charts for the IAF fleet right now.  Imagine 5 of our squadrons going balls to the wall for almost a solid year, getting a tiny break then going full tilt for 2 weeks.  

Edited 7 hours ago by uhhello

[Boomer6]

5 hours ago, McJay Pilot said:

On that note, join me for some Tin foil hat time… Iran just had a 5.2 earthquake. Underground nuke detonations are in that range. I’m not sayin, I’m just sayin…

Speaking of tin foil hats.. If Fordow was a primary target, then what was Israel's gameplan? Did they have assurances we'd bring the hammer once they did the heavy lifting? I doubt they just assumed DJT would do it without a discussion. Or is Fordow just not that big of a deal?

[BigE]

1 hour ago, disgruntledemployee said:

With Trump/surrogates announcing/peddling a 2 week taco, I think he's hoping Israel can mop this up and he can walk out, hands open waist high, claim victory and peace in the same sentence, work a weave or 3, and look like it was his plan all along.  His goal, happy MAGA, Iran defeated.

I don't think he gets both.  He's along for the ride.

What’s the moon cycle looking like over the next 2 weeks?  

[uhhello]

1 hour ago, Boomer6 said:

Speaking of tin foil hats.. If Fordow was a primary target, then what was Israel's gameplan? Did they have assurances we'd bring the hammer once they did the heavy lifting? I doubt they just assumed DJT would do it without a discussion. Or is Fordow just not that big of a deal?

Ground assault.  Chuck Norris and Bibi.

[McJay Pilot]

55 minutes ago, BigE said:

What’s the moon cycle looking like over the next 2 weeks?  

Waning crescent… with what little moon there is below the horizon at night! Huzzah!

[DirkDiggler]

[uhhello]

Hitting tanker right after takeoff would point to heavy load....Good messaging 
Could be just normal everyday ops.  Probably going to be the most heavily tracked training sortie in USAF history.

Edited 2 hours ago by uhhello