Tariff wars

[Majestik Møøse]

Bill Oreilly still exists? And people listen to his guesses about economics? Jesus.

[Clark Griswold]

Related to the theme of this thread, posted as I thought Farage described the issue very well:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/04/28/farages-reform-set-to-spark-biggest-british-political-realignment-in-a-century-says-top-pollster/
 

“Capitalism is dead, it doesn’t exist, we’re living in corporatism. An unholy alliance of big business, big banks, and big government… I genuinely think we won’t get economic growth if the country is dominated by six giant multinationals, none of whom pay tax on-shore.”

 

Edited April 28 by Clark Griswold

[FourFans]

On 4/27/2025 at 6:25 PM, Majestik Møøse said:

Bill Oreilly still exists? And people listen to his guesses about economics? Jesus.

My parents do...it's simultaneously depressing and entertaining when they bring up his talking points.

[ClearedHot]

They just announced a deal with China.  Lets see how this turns out...

The UK deal was more symbolic than anything.

With egg prices down, fuel costs down (inflation will come down in lag with energy costs), the border is closed and Trump just came out in favor of higher taxes on the top 1%.  The Carville/Bernie/AOC are going to have to dig deep into the bag to find things to cry about.

[Banzai]

35 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

They just announced a deal with China.  Lets see how this turns out...

The UK deal was more symbolic than anything.

With egg prices down, fuel costs down (inflation will come down in lag with energy costs), the border is closed and Trump just came out in favor of higher taxes on the top 1%.  The Carville/Bernie/AOC are going to have to dig deep into the bag to find things to cry about.

Here’s the pragmatic answer - they aren’t gonna have a problem unless things change a lot. 

In reality, egg prices haven’t actually changed significantly for consumers (turns out bulk price decreases don’t matter to families), gas prices same. Tax proposals to create structures where the rich pay more are not supported by republicans in congress AND proposed policies that include elimination of income tax + tariffs are highly regressive, so good luck making people believe that the Repubs will actually do anything.

Probably a graph like this would play well in the “things to cry about:”

And immigration policy - despite whatever wins may be occurring - will be met with criticisms about the administration using tactics that appear dictatorial and unconstitutional.

Maybe they’d throw the fact that the Epstein logs still haven’t been released? Who knows!

That’s how 60% of America views those issues now. Hope it actually gets better.

[ClearedHot]

1 hour ago, Banzai said:

Here’s the pragmatic answer - they aren’t gonna have a problem unless things change a lot. 

In reality, egg prices haven’t actually changed significantly for consumers (turns out bulk price decreases don’t matter to families), gas prices same. Tax proposals to create structures where the rich pay more are not supported by republicans in congress AND proposed policies that include elimination of income tax + tariffs are highly regressive, so good luck making people believe that the Repubs will actually do anything.

Probably a graph like this would play well in the “things to cry about:”

And immigration policy - despite whatever wins may be occurring - will be met with criticisms about the administration using tactics that appear dictatorial and unconstitutional.

Maybe they’d throw the fact that the Epstein logs still haven’t been released? Who knows!

That’s how 60% of America views those issues now. Hope it actually gets better.

You must live in California.

National price for a dozen eggs is WAY down.

 

Energy prices related to the price of crude ALWAYS lag and impact for more than simply what you pay at the pump.  they matriculate across all aspects of the economy from production to transportation of goods.  We've already seen the indicators from march Core Inflation...should continue to decrease.

 

The U.S. market graph is somewhat funny...for so long we heard how all of the other economies were doing so poorly, of course they had more upside.  I bought in at some of the lows, especially blue chips and I am above where I was when the corrections started.  Actually bought a new range rover this week with some of it.

The DNC can scream about process and storm ICE detention centers but the overall opinion is he is doing the right thing with the illegals.  Don;t get me wrong, I want to follow the law but most don't seem to care.

 

 

[Banzai]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

You must live in California.

National price for a dozen eggs is WAY down.

 

Energy prices related to the price of crude ALWAYS lag and impact for more than simply what you pay at the pump.  they matriculate across all aspects of the economy from production to transportation of goods.  We've already seen the indicators from march Core Inflation...should continue to decrease.

 

The U.S. market graph is somewhat funny...for so long we heard how all of the other economies were doing so poorly, of course they had more upside.  I bought in at some of the lows, especially blue chips and I am above where I was when the corrections started.  Actually bought a new range rover this week with some of it.

The DNC can scream about process and storm ICE detention centers but the overall opinion is he is doing the right thing with the illegals.  Don;t get me wrong, I want to follow the law but most don't seem to care.

 

 

Your data are wholesale prices and commodities markets - not what people are actually paying. I do not live in California, but in nowhere-ville east coast eggs were $5.29 and gas was $3.45 today.

Remember when Biden would cherry pick economic data to gaslight people about how good the economy was?

 

The overall opinion is absolutely not what you stated. It is in your echo chambers, I am sure. But not in reality.

The polls show that people neither believe Trump is doing well overall or on immigration. Yes, >85% of republicans are happy. But the actual majority of America are negative.

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/29/nx-s1-5379596/trump-100-days-polling-grade-approval-rating

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/25/trump-immigration-approval-ratings-drop-poll/

Edited 9 hours ago by Banzai

[Day Man]

1 minute ago, Banzai said:

Your data are wholesale prices and commodities markets - not what people are actually paying. I do not live in California, but in nowhere-ville east coast eggs were $5.29 and gas was $3.45 today.

Remember when Biden would cherry pick economic data to gaslight people about how good the economy was?

sounds like TDS bro...gas is $1.98/gal! 

[Banzai]

I figured it out, this forum probably gets their programming directly from Truth Social. This is a real message from the real president.