July 20, 201312 yr Are all the -38s updated with the new seats? Not yet...Edwards still had old seats.
July 20, 201312 yr One hates to think how the outcome of pre MB -38 ejections would have turned out had they had the good seat. It probably would have turned out fine.
July 20, 201312 yr Author Are all the -38s updated with the new seats? Back in my day, we had to wear parachutes and the final turn would kill you... Edited July 20, 201312 yr by Infamous
July 20, 201312 yr Back in my day, we had to wear parachutes and the final turn would kill you... The final turn is still deadly! Even though the new MB seat has better capes (it is 0/0) than the old seat, the 3000-4000 VVI and 45 degrees bank angle in the final turn is still a bitch...getting wings level, althought still with a hearty sink rank, increases your survival chances immensely!! We also still use 2K/15K for controlled/un-controlled bailout altitudes, which are the same numbers for the old seat IIRC. Cheers, Cap-10
July 20, 201312 yr Are all the -38s updated with the new seats? Tyndall has old seats. And a/b models, steam gauges, original motors, etc. It's a t38 from the good old days like your grandfather flew.
July 21, 201312 yr Anybody care to bitch about the RCP visibility of the new seat now? Martin baker puts the old seat to shame. I don't see anything about that particular ejection that the "old" T-38 seat would have had problems with.
July 21, 201312 yr We also still use 2K/15K for controlled/un-controlled bailout altitudes, which are the same numbers for the old seat IIRC. Cheers, Cap-10 Which is crap, it just hasn't been tested.
July 22, 201312 yr Does this seat have the same homo leg garters as the T-6 seat (and all of the Navy seats)?
July 23, 201312 yr Does this seat have the same homo leg garters as the T-6 seat (and all of the Navy seats)? Yes - around both thighs and calves...
July 23, 201312 yr Are all the -38s updated with the new seats? END is getting the new seats in 2015, last time I heard.
July 23, 201312 yr Seems that the chute wasn't too far away from the RCP canopy and the burning wreckage isn't too far away either. Low altitude ejection?!?! I bet it all happened very quickly. Thanks Martin Baker and the Life Supoort Troops! Cheers, Cap-10
July 24, 201312 yr Don't you get the option of getting the seat too (after a certain amount of time)? We've had one in every squadron bar I've been apart of. We have the one from our Sq/CC ejecting in the 13th. It'd be a hell of an office/bar chair. Here's to AFE, and to friend and mentor Alec Littler and all of those that the new seat was years too late.
July 25, 201312 yr Don't you get the option of getting the seat too (after a certain amount of time)? We've had one in every squadron bar I've been apart of. We have the one from our Sq/CC ejecting in the 13th. It'd be a hell of an office/bar chair. Here's to AFE, and to friend and mentor Alec Littler and all of those that the new seat was years too late. A few years late indeed. To Littler and Funk. :beer:
December 11, 201311 yr AIB is out: Bird strike brought down T-38 Anybody know how to access the original AIB report? I'm curious to see how it differs from the SIB.
December 11, 201311 yr AIB is out: Bird strike brought down T-38 Anybody know how to access the original AIB report? I'm curious to see how it differs from the SIB. Not there yet. Link
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